Posted on 07/20/2008 9:25:44 PM PDT by Marie2
The murdered kid needed help, but in our PC society we can’t even say that. He would have very likely killed himself at a very young age or just done so many other self destructive things that he would have died at a young age. Sodomy is a horrible goddless thing. It reminds me of the man with the legion of demons that Jesus exorcized.
Did you read the article? The gay kid was the bully in this story. He aggressively pursued and sexually harrassed other boys. No where in the story does it infer that the shooter was a ‘mouth breather’.
I won't leave!!
Is this moveon.org ?
...which had nothing to do with his being homosexual, though it was widely reported that way.
LEAVE RIGHT WING TEEN ALONE! < /s>
Whoever “Home Schooled” you failed to include MANNERS in your lesson plans.
Uhm, the way most of us understand it, a kick is not what your 'GAYS' or our pederasts, typically say they need in their butts!
Okay, you keep fighting BIGOTY......whatever that is.
And you love to send your kids to the SOCIALIST INDOCTRINE CENTERS!!
1. The guy who pulled the trigger. I would have punched him out, but I wouldn't have shot him. Being annoyed, even severely, is not a good reason to kill someone.
2. The school system. What the hell were they thinking? If I was a teacher or a principle, I'd first bring the guy and his parents in my office and let him know that he's playing with fire. That goes besides the rules and that stuff. I read the first few paragraphs and knew where this was going immediately. Predictable.
If he brought the gun to school that day, then it looks like premeditated murder. It sounded like he waited till the back is turned too. Now whether this should be in juvy or adult court is another matter, but it looks like 1st degree murder to me if I was a prosecutor.
Now.
1. Nobody here said that Larry deserved to be murdered.
2. I'm fairly libertarian in my politics, but some things aren't normal. Guys acting effemite and wearing dresses is not normal. It is a double standard. It should be. Men and different are different. Now that does not mean that Larry deserved to be murdered. What it does mean is that Larry needed a dose of reality from mom, dad, and the school so that he had better situational awareness. If I walked around the projects in flashy expensive clothes, I wouldn't deserve to get murdered, but I would be putting myself in a dangerous situation that is avoidable.
Watch it with the "you people" generalizations. Nobody deserves to be killed for having Same Sex Attraction Disorder. But when I was in high school, the entire administration was not cohered into "tolerance", either.
A couple of weeks ago, an idiot highschooler got decapitated on a rollercoster. He was trying to get back a hat and a cell phone he lost on the ride, and no doubt it seemed reasonable to him to climb over two fences and walk past a "no admittance" sign todo so. There were warnings in place that his behavior would put him in danger, which he ignored, and tragiclly, he paid a price.
If I were Mr. Rollercoster's best bud, and I didn't say "dude, whatever you plan on doing, some things are going to place you in danger" and instead said, "dude, you are an individual with rights to make your own choices", I would be wrong. The school staff and the teacher in question contributed to Mr. Grab Butt's behavior because they were conditioned into "tolerating" how he chose to behave. Weather you grab a girls backside or a boys backside, the behavior is wrong, and odds are that sooner or later, somebody is going to object. Deadly force was not required, but just like if you walk into a biker bar and spit in somebody's face, you never know if your stupid choices are going to offend somebody who is not going to "tolerate" it. It is better not to do stupid things to others, and keep your personal choice in your own personal space.
I too have had "a few gay friends", and I supported them by telling them that while they were on the whole smart, clever, kind and intelligent people, God disapproved of the choices they were making, and those choices would put them in danger of disease and worse in their lives. That is, I (philos) loved them, but I couldn't approve of the choices they made, as they ran against what God had to say on the subject. I could tolerate what they chose to do, but tolerance didn't obligate me to approve of it. Alas, their world view, which preached "tolerance" as a sacrement, didn't mean that I was not even allowed to whisper the idea that they might be wrong on the subject. No freedom of speech on my part would be tolerated by them. This was because in objecting to what was one facet of their lives meant I threatened their entire being...because to them, all they are is "gay."
I watched these friends go from being sons, brothers, students, poets, writers, and athletes who chose homosexual behavior into individuals whose sexuality defined every facet of their lives. The lifestyle grew and grew until it encompassed everything they were, coloring every part of their lives...like any addiction does.
I have a father-in-law who is a recovering alcholholic, dry for 30 years now. Every morning, he has to wake up and decide if today he's going to turn away from the fun thing his body wants him to do and rely on God to help him through, or weather he will go have a drink. Every day is a choice; will he give in to what is pleasurable for a moment, and put his loved ones through hell, or will he make the choice to remain sober and healthy?
Some believe that there is a genetic link to homosexuality (which would make a convenient excuse.) There may be a genetic link to alcoholism. But no sane person would walk up to my father-in-law and say, "You know, you can't help it! You were born that way! Clearly God wants you to drink and anyone who disagrees with your needs is a vicious, small minded alcoholophobe! Here, let me buy you a drink!"
I support my friends by warning them when their actions are going to ruin their lives. What they do with that is their choice. But if I saw a man driving his car towards a 1000 foot tall cliff, I would warn him, even if he planned on driving over it for his own reasons, even if others could "tolerate" it.
I support my friends by warning them when their actions are going to ruin their lives.
Excuse me -- Do you think ALL GAYS are what you see during media events of GAY PRIDE PARADE?? Sorry, but I have to DISAGREE with you. What you see are the <1% of the gays out there.
My friend's uncle is gay - and he is very CONSERVATIVE. He is a business owner and he knows that Obama is dangerous! He also know that being gay is not ILLEGAL - and GAYS - like Matthew Shepard or Larry King - SHOULD NOT be murdered.
If my friends does become weird, I'll tell them to cut it out! If they don't I'll drop them, but knowing them - they'll be fine.
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