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Barack Obama panics: Andy Martin's book forces Obama to admit he is illegitimate
PR-Inside ^ | June 14, 2008 | Andy Martin

Posted on 07/14/2008 3:26:56 AM PDT by cdchik123

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To: Calpernia

LOL! Ok :) I think it’s great that Martin is taking this on, don’t misunderstand- I just don’t like the “Dick Morris” school of journalism.


41 posted on 07/14/2008 4:54:29 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SE Mom

I agree. I don’t either. But, the MSM has created a nasty wall.


42 posted on 07/14/2008 4:56:50 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Edit35

Obama is such an unknown, it makes me wonder what other info is out there. i find it really hard to fathom this man could become POTUS.


43 posted on 07/14/2008 5:02:48 AM PDT by wolfcreek (I see miles and miles of Texas....let's keep it that way.)
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To: wildandcrazyrussian
Does that mean, in Obama’s own terminology, that his mother was “punished” with having a baby?

Or, more importantly, that he sees himself as a form of punishment? In addition, his mom was knocked up as a minor girl by a mid-20's guy and Barry, after he is old enough to have become aware of much of this and after having been visited by the donor once in his whole life, chooses to adopt his father's name and identity and to create a para-history for him and his mother. This, combined with Barry's propensity to adapt Zelig-like to all manner of anti-social political groups, should raise some warning flags.
44 posted on 07/14/2008 5:07:56 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: AmericaUnited

Bingo.


45 posted on 07/14/2008 5:11:47 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: xzins

None if he was born in the US.


46 posted on 07/14/2008 5:13:28 AM PDT by kabar
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To: cdchik123
"...and had a child out of wedlock, in 1961, when that was still scandalous behavior."

Ahhhh, the good old days!*sigh* I miss them. But to the libs, if being illegit, or having an illegit child carries no shame-then what, pray tell, is he trying to conceal?

47 posted on 07/14/2008 5:16:32 AM PDT by ozark hilljilly (I was gruntled before I was disgruntled.)
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To: cdchik123

We already know tha the parents were never legally married because the senior O’Bama already had at least one married spouse.


48 posted on 07/14/2008 5:16:46 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: aruanan
....chooses to adopt his father's name and identity and to create a para-history for him and his mother.

That really is the issue. This raises questions as to how well we really know this man. It would be interesting to learn when Obama started using that name or whether is mother made that choice for him. For example, what name was used when he was in school in Indonesia--his step-father's, his mother's, or his biological father's.

Combined with his associations with Ayers, Wright, and Rezco, more and more doubt is being cast on how well we really know this guy. He is sounding more like a media creation than a real person.

49 posted on 07/14/2008 5:21:56 AM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar

Than what name would be on the birth certificate too?


50 posted on 07/14/2008 5:23:43 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: cdchik123

popcorn anyone?


51 posted on 07/14/2008 5:26:14 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: fanfan

Thanks. I know nothing about Andy Martin, but I will keep an eye on this story.


52 posted on 07/14/2008 5:26:14 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: kabar
For example, what name was used when he was in school in Indonesia--his step-father's, his mother's, or his biological father's.

He was adopted by Soetero in Indonesia. He would have had at some point to legally change his name from Barry Soetero to Barack Obama, Jr.
53 posted on 07/14/2008 5:27:54 AM PDT by aruanan
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To: RU88

****Agree that these kinds of things need to come out in the campaign, and they eventually will. The trick will be to not make it appear as a high tech lynching, which is how the false messiah and his minions will portray it.****

Which is why the original charge must be backed up with more vociferous verbiage if called a racist or fear monger or whatever retort the Obama campaign uses. Use the Chucky Shumer defense right back in their faces, except with the truth on your side.


54 posted on 07/14/2008 5:27:59 AM PDT by ResponseAbility (Government tends to never fix the problems it creates in the first place)
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To: Calpernia

Exactly, which is why the reluctance of the Obama camp to produce the original document. Obama must know what is on it since he needed the document to get a passport, drivers license, etc.


55 posted on 07/14/2008 5:28:55 AM PDT by kabar
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To: AmericaUnited

Now can we look for a baptism certificate?


56 posted on 07/14/2008 5:29:20 AM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: cdchik123

Going after Obama because he didn’t want to admit that he’s a bastard is about the most idiotic strategy I have heard, yet, to keep Obama from the WH.


57 posted on 07/14/2008 5:31:57 AM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: aruanan

The plot thickens. I wonder when that took place. Methinks that Obama must harbor a deep-seated hatred of his mother who flogged him off to his grandmother to raise. I am sure the name, Barak Obama, was useful in his community organizing days. It appears that the name change must have taken place when he went back to Hawaii. Didn’t he use that name when he attended high school?


58 posted on 07/14/2008 5:33:44 AM PDT by kabar
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To: xzins
It doesn't change the fact that if he was born on U.S. soil to an American citizen then he is a natural born citizen.
59 posted on 07/14/2008 5:34:26 AM PDT by allmendream (shamelessly stealing clever FReeper lines without attribution!)
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To: kabar
For example, what name was used when he was in school in Indonesia--his step-father's, his mother's, or his biological father's.

Think of it. Here's a guy who actually married his mother, adopted him, cared for him from the time of some of his earliest memories up to the time he went back to live with his grandparents, but Barry's "dreams" of his father count for more than reality. This seems to me to fit in with other stories of adopted kids imagining all sorts of things about their real parents in order to ameliorate their actual conditions or nurse their sense of having been wronged by the ones who actually remained to care for them (his mom, somewhat) or who took up the burden and challenge of doing so (Soetero and his grandparents). Overlooking or devaluing the actual in favor of the fantasy--if that isn't the core of liberalism.
60 posted on 07/14/2008 5:34:34 AM PDT by aruanan
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