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Obama's Ideas Not Known In Europe (If He Has Any, That Is)
Apollo 13

Posted on 07/08/2008 4:36:22 AM PDT by Apollo 13

Dunno how this will come over in the U.S. Recently, I had an interesting debate with a Dutch column writer in our best national newspaper. In short: he wrote, a Dutch proverb: a kiddie's hand is filled quickly, by which he meant: Obama is massively popular in Europe whilst no one can list his ideas (or even one of them, for that matter). I am not always in agreement with this writer, but this time he hit it on the head. Every young(ish) European seems enamoured with Obama, and being fancying him as the next Christlike figure. Without having an inkling of a fragment of a tiny portion of what Barack actually stands for. I applauded his column, and wrote my thoughts, which briefly amount to the following: Obama is good to look at, and can be a seductive talker. But althought I tried to make sense of what he actually is planning, should he become the next Prez? I can't make no chocolate of it all, as we Dutch say. And worse, no one I ask can answer any question regarding this. All I get is a bit of a shameful blush of the cheeks. So: I guess that Obama is sort of a 'Bono'-like figure, a proverbial do-gooder without any big track record in doing good. He is attractive to the young, that is for sure; and perhaps he offers simple solutions for complex problems (always loved by the young, with their Guevara and Bob Marley t-shirts). Conveniently, the young like to forget that Marley did have some 35 children the world over by as many women, apart from his marriage to Rita, his lawful wife. I could go on, you know... Would you agree with me that this type of simple charisma could possibly bear a lot of future danger in it? Eagerly awaiting your opinions... A13.


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: europe; obama; thegreatunknown

1 posted on 07/08/2008 4:36:22 AM PDT by Apollo 13
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To: Apollo 13

Sorry for asking: my long text is under the title, but why doesn’t it appear onscreen immediately?
A13.


2 posted on 07/08/2008 4:38:25 AM PDT by Apollo 13
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To: Apollo 13

Heck I’m in the US and can’t list too many of his ideas. Mostly because he doesn’t have all that many. Mostly he wants to grow the govt and increase taxes.

Marxist thru and thru


3 posted on 07/08/2008 4:39:14 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver

Don’t be silly. It’s all hope and change. And don’t bother asking hope and change what, because it’s going to change tomorrow anyhow.


4 posted on 07/08/2008 4:43:47 AM PDT by Ronin (Is there some rule that says that when an evil man gets sick, we must pretend he was saint?)
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To: Ronin

Thats very racist of you Ronin to question his hope and changing of the changes


5 posted on 07/08/2008 4:46:23 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: Apollo 13

They’re DUTCH, fercrissakes...maybe they figure he’s going to legalize coke and pot...


6 posted on 07/08/2008 4:49:06 AM PDT by milky
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To: Apollo 13
Obama’s a passive negro(excluding the preachings of Rev. Wright)... and a palpable alternative for wussified, white males and “highly educated” white females who are basically... “politically bored”.
7 posted on 07/08/2008 5:07:03 AM PDT by johnny7 ("Duck I says... ")
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To: milky

As long as he doesn’t legalize tobacco, that would be the kiss of death.


8 posted on 07/08/2008 5:09:23 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: driftdiver
Mostly he wants to grow the govt and increase taxes.

Oh no, the BBC and lefty's over here will just be drooling over him it's just what the corporations left-wing think tanks love and adore what they've always wanted and dream't of, a potential black American president with big govt and big taxes.

I can see it now, wall to wall coverage of Obama's visit like it's the second coming, one and two hour specials every night just dedicated to every aspect of his life......spare me please!

I'll just miss the news for a week or so and put on a Steve Mcqueen film instead......problem solved!

9 posted on 07/08/2008 5:22:03 AM PDT by snowman_returns (PC used to mean........personal computer and police constable!)
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To: milky

He he -
though cocaine is not legal over here, it’s seen as a ‘recreational drug’ and as thus not prosecuted that intensely.
I never used it, but I know what it does. I was, long ago, in a therapy group to wean myself off of benzodiazepines (read: valium); thankfully it worked. There was a coke user, a modest guy who didn’t even drink or smoke. But when he got the ‘urge’, he bought a little plastic bag with the devil’s dandruff.
He sniffed. He got into an indescribable high (as he put it). Which lasted, oh, 5 minutes. Then he lost contact with reality. He stole money from his wife’s purse and drove across the German border, deep into that country, deep into the night. Several times he refilled his tank without remembering it. Next thing you know: he found himself back in the German Alps; tank and wallet empty; he’d gotten a bad case of the shakes and had become totally paranoid. He didn’t dare to phone the police for fear of being incarcerated. He phoned his wife in Holland instead. She came with a friend; and collected him some 400 miles from home.
She’s still with him.
Lesson: don’t sniff coke. Don’t even sniff washing powder.


10 posted on 07/08/2008 5:22:52 AM PDT by Apollo 13
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To: Apollo 13

Mr. Obama is full of ideas...all of them bad ones.

All we know from his record is that he thinks government is God, and that it’s perfectly OK to end the loves of helpless children in their mother’s womb. Surely, there is no way he can square this view with his insistence that he is a Christian.

He voted “absent” 130 times while a state senator, and he has spent most of his time in the US Senate running for POTUS.

Frankly, I don’t think Mr. Obama could run a large restaurant, let alone a multi-trillion dollar government.

The biggest thing he’s run is a Senate staff, and he doesn’t really do that. His chief of staff does that job.

The Dutch like him because, yes, he is young, and he is not George Bush.


11 posted on 07/08/2008 5:25:43 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit!" Douglas MacArthur)
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To: RexBeach

“absent” s/b “present” and “loves” s/b “lives”


12 posted on 07/08/2008 5:26:53 AM PDT by RexBeach ("Americans never quit!" Douglas MacArthur)
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To: driftdiver

Like you said - same ideas that they have in Europe - Marxist.


13 posted on 07/08/2008 5:28:33 AM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Apollo 13
Obama is good to look at, and can be a seductive talker.

Bwahahahahaha!!!!! He's NOT good to look at and he reads his marxist garbage from a freakin' teleprompter! He's nothing without his teleprompter!

14 posted on 07/08/2008 5:42:24 AM PDT by library user (There's no sandwich like prawn sandwich.)
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To: library user

Ah well -
nothing to fight about. I write what I hear in Europe. Esp. the middle-aged ladies and the idealistic but ill-informed youth feel what I wrote.
To each his own, certainly.


15 posted on 07/08/2008 5:45:26 AM PDT by Apollo 13
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To: milky
The Dutch tend to be among the most pro-American Europeans out there.

Many years ago, following the gulf war, I participated in a ceremony for the 3rd Armored Division (Spearhead!) in Frankfurt Germany as it was formally folding up it's flag and leaving Germany. A group of private Dutch citizens from a town which the division had liberated during WWII chartered a bus and drove in from the Netherlands to watch the ceremony and say goodbye.

I will never forget a prticular teary eyed gray haired gentleman who eagerly pumped my hand up and down gushing his thanks and attempting to recount to me in broken english just how much the U.S. meant to him and his town and how he would never forget what was done for his village during WWII. I was a bit stunned to say the least, and being a young man in my early 20's, this elderly gentleman could not have failed to realize that I was at least two generations removed from those who had performed the great deed which he was so profusely thankful for. This didn't matter to him, it was America which he was thanking and held dearly in his heart.

Somewhat awkwardly I accepted his tearful thanks on behalf of our country. As I had just recently returned from a war where America had liberated another country I was unshakable in my confidence that America would always stand firm in the face of tyranny and continue to justify such eternal admiration of others. As I listen to my fellow countrymen bellyache about the current war in Iraq and listen to the calls of those who wish to cut and run and leave countless innocents to those who would do them harm I have to admit that an insidious doubt is creeping in as to whether or not future generations will take up the challenge of freeing those who are oppressed when they are called upon to do so.
17 posted on 07/08/2008 5:56:00 AM PDT by contemplator (Capitalism gets no Rock Concerts)
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To: AdmSmith; Berosus; Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks; george76; ...

Take a massive compiled list of political proposals, turn around, and throw the darts over your shoulder, repeat it a few times, and use whichever ones the darts hit.


18 posted on 07/08/2008 11:34:45 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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