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7/1/08 | dinokr

Posted on 07/01/2008 7:18:05 PM PDT by dinok

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To: Grizzled Bear

Use it , post it, spread the word.


21 posted on 07/01/2008 8:26:25 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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22 posted on 07/01/2008 8:43:50 PM PDT by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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23 posted on 07/01/2008 8:45:09 PM PDT by Old Sarge (CTHULHU '08 - I won't settle for a lesser evil any longer!)
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To: redstateconfidential

I just wanted to make clear which picture I was snatching!


24 posted on 07/01/2008 8:48:49 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear ("Does not play well with others.")
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To: redstateconfidential

It take a Viking to raze a village...

25 posted on 07/01/2008 8:54:25 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
Yes. While the movie drew on various historical elements, it molded them to its own purposes, and there was no real attempt to reflect the actualities of the ancient era.

While it may be true that these actualities are inaccessible to us, the closest we can get to them is to read the words ( whether in translation or not ) of the ancient Greek chroniclers, starting with Homer.

The written legacy of ancient Greek culture is breathtaking to behold, and held the greatest minds of Europe in awe throughout the Renaissance and the Enlightenment. Now it suffers neglect, and even disparagement, as never before. The greatest service that a movie such as The 300 provides is that it directs the popular attention towards this legacy, and it may not be going too far to say that our culture cannot survive if it loses its consciousness of its roots therein.

26 posted on 07/01/2008 9:05:19 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Well, the movie was meant to be a graphic-novel adaptation, not a historical movie, so I really liked it from that perspective.


27 posted on 07/02/2008 7:47:40 AM PDT by Hyzenthlay (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: dinok

What is “crewel”?


28 posted on 07/02/2008 7:51:53 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner
*** I didn’t particularly care for the movie since, historically speaking, Sparta was a brutal military dictatorship and Leonidas was not fighting Persian Muslims, despite popular belief... ***

Exsqueeze me but Sparta wasn't a 'military dictatorship'.

The constitution of Sparta was socio-military. It was ruled by a dual hereditary monarchy, and an oligarchy consisting of magistrates (ephors), a council of twenty-eight elders (gerousia) (all over 60 and appointed for life), and a supreme consultative assembly of all those over 30, with power only to ratify war. The rest of the population were either perioikoi with some independence or helots (serfs).
Life in Sparta was definitely no bowl of cherry's, but a 'dictatorship' it wasn't. The Duel 'Kings' reigned for three years IIRC and then new ones took over. And I've never heard 'that popular belief' that Xerxes' Persians were Muslims.

maybe I should get out more? 'Historically speaking' /s

29 posted on 07/02/2008 8:31:55 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Condor51

Well, I’m sure that the Helots have their own opinions about Spartan rule, and yes, I do actually have to correct a lot of folks about the ancient Persians, especially after they have seen this movie.


30 posted on 07/02/2008 9:06:32 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("We must not forget that there is a war on and our troops are in the thick of it!"--Duncan Hunter)
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