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Iranian nuclear site strike prediction thread
June 21st, 2008 | Perdogg

Posted on 06/21/2008 3:52:47 PM PDT by Perdogg

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To: AdmSmith

Was it cocktail hour when you wrote that? :~ p


41 posted on 06/23/2008 6:42:13 PM PDT by nuconvert (Obama - Preferred by 4 out of 5 Dictators & Terrorists)
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To: nuconvert; SunkenCiv
“Due to ample capitals in the first quarter, our bank has reached lending agreements with many clients. However, given relatively tight conditions currently, we have no choice but to suspend most projects,” the newspaper quoted a bank credit manager as saying. “Some companies depend heavily on bank loans. If they cannot get renewals after old loans mature, they may face a breakdown in the fund chain, which may lead to more defaults or even bad loans.”

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/bizchina/2008-06/23/content_6786925.htm

Standard & Poor’s Ratings Services believes the 100 basis point increase in the deposit reserve requirement to a 23-year high of 17.5% will tighten the pressure on the banks’ asset and liability management. This will lead them to accelerate the shift in their asset mix towards low-yield reserve assets, which will take a toll on profitability. Higher yields on debt securities will also ensure revaluation losses on domestic trading books.

“The biggest threat to banks will center on loan quality, as marginal borrowers struggle to secure loans amid tightening credit conditions, which further asset adjustments will exacerbate,” said Standard & Poor’s credit analyst Qiang Liao.
https://www.theasianbanker.com/A556C5/Update.nsf/0/BE59AEB53D5FCD534825747200085593?Opendocument

according to Bob Janjuah of the Royal Bank of Scotland: “A very nasty period is soon to be upon us. Be prepared.” It's not like the RBS to go around making alarmist statements but it has warned of a “global equity and credit crash” this autumn. Morgan Stanley bank has forecast a “catastrophic event”. The hedge fund guru John Paulson says global losses from the credit crisis, currently $300bn, may reach $1.3 trillion.

Meanwhile, the world's stock markets are falling: 50% in China, 30% here if you strip out unstable oil, mining and commodities. The commodities boom is due for a sharp correction and many banks are in deep trouble. Which is why analysts are warning of further stock market and credit shocks this autumn. They believe we haven't begun to recognise the scale and ramifications of this crisis.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/features/featuresopinon/display.var.2357294.0.Are_we_really_ready_for_this_financial_storm.php

Ahmadinejad has been criticised by Iranian economists for provoking inflation rates of almost 25 per cent with high spending instead of saving the treasury windfalls from the high price of oil.

Economic issues will be crucial when the controversial president, as expected, seeks re-election in the summer next year. He said part of the government's reform of the economy would include the gradual dismantling of subsidies, which the government pays to keep basic goods such as bread and petrol at ultra-low prices. “We hope to start with some areas in the second half of the year. We have plans for all subsidies,” he said, without elaborating.

http://news.smh.com.au/world/oil-market-is-saturated-iran-president-20080624-2vpp.html

Iran should consent: (1) to halt its enrichment activities for a set period, fully cooperate with the International Atomic Energy Agency and ratify its Additional Protocol, and restart its enrichment programs at the end of the specified period or after it reaches an agreement with its nuclear nemesis for a fully verifiable enrichment for civilian use - whichever comes first; (2) to remove all support for the anti-Israeli and anti-American groups in the region (Iraq and the Occupied Territories included), and officially accept the two-state solution to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict; and (3) to allow for free and fair elections in the country beginning with the 2009 Iranian presidential elections. These and other auxiliary compromises that might be demanded from Iran and its nuclear nemesis should be attractive to many of the stakeholders in US-Iran relations.

http://www.payvand.com/news/08/jun/1200.html

WASHINGTON (AFP) The United States is considering opening an interests section staffed by US diplomats in Tehran, similar to the one it has in Cuba, a State Department official said Monday.
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5gY5cRpfxfwC98CNhl_tg35aEyvEg

42 posted on 06/23/2008 9:42:34 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: AdmSmith
After the Olympics at the end of August there will be a bank crash in China and the speculative commodities market will adjust south some 30+ %.
The worldwide economic downturn -- which is due to the price of oil -- will probably have an impact on attendance at the Olympics. The Chinese earthquake death toll, especially among the one-child-household schoolchildren, and the protests in Tibet, have shaken that society. China is lucky that its rice-backbone agriculture is still so labor-intensive (in particular, in comparison with that of the US); FWIW/IMHO, I no longer expect the crude price to decline much by this time next year, but the Chinese economy is so export-driven that the crude price will have a serious impact over time.
The Iranian economy with its 25 - 30 % inflation will have a flush down when the income from oil is evaporating. Iran will step down its confrontational policies in October/November 2008 and Ahmadinejad is replaced.
I think you're right about the Iranian economic meltdown (which has been going on a while already), but I don't think Ahmadeadman is going to be turned out in the next election. I think he'll win, then be struck down by the Guardian Council, given a quick drumhead trial, and executed for "crimes". He's grown too powerful, and intends to grow even more powerful.
Then there will be a military agreement between Washington and Tehran. The Saudis don't know what to think: Is this against the Wahhabis or only against al Qaeda?
Interesting. I don't see it happening though, even if Ahmedinejad is replaced (by whatever means), because the nuclear weapons program would have to be dismantled with a guaranteed transparency, inspections, etc, as demanded by the US, EU, and UN. :')
43 posted on 06/23/2008 9:56:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: AdmSmith

Thanks!

Chinese warned of record rise in ore price
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China to raise gasoline, diesel prices 18 percent: sources
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Oil prices push trade deficit to 13-month high
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China stocks slide 7.7 pct on monetary tightening
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Where is the China Earthquake Donation Money Going?
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China’s power plants running out of coal
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China Freezes Lending to Curb Investing Frenzy
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Posted on 10/20/2007 8:15:19 PM PDT by bruinbirdman
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44 posted on 06/23/2008 10:07:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: SunkenCiv

Check the charts: http://www.investorsinsight.com/blogs/john_mauldins_outside_the_box/archive/2008/06/16/the-road-to-revulsion.aspx


45 posted on 06/23/2008 10:44:41 PM PDT by AdmSmith
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To: Perdogg

Israel only December 6.
USA on December 10, after Iran’s reaction.


46 posted on 06/23/2008 10:55:12 PM PDT by toast
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To: AdmSmith

Thanks!


47 posted on 06/23/2008 11:03:57 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_________________________Profile updated Friday, May 30, 2008)
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To: Perdogg; LS; Dog; Dog Gone; SAJ; Travis McGee; Squantos; SJackson; yonif

No strike.

Here’s what is happening: Iran wants to be a recognized nuclear power, gifted with a UN Security Council Veto & Membership representing the Middle-East, and all current trade sanctions against Persia ended.

So here is their plan: pursue their nuclear program in public as Part One...

Sabre Rattle against the U.S. and Israel for Part Two...

Make such incendiary public statements and overt military actions (without crossing a certain line) that Israel or the U.S. bombs Iran...

At which point Iran rolls out Part Three: it “tests” the nuke that it bought from North Korea...

...and Iran makes this test public **IMMEDIATELY** after it gets bombed by the U.S. or Israel...

Meaning that Iran is then poised to go on a WORLD TOUR ginning up sympathy for its “defensive” possession of nukes and the need for Iran to be elevated in UN status as a “counter-balance to the U.S. and Israel.

So the big picture here is that Iran is baiting us to attack them as part of their trap.


48 posted on 06/23/2008 11:05:48 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Regardless, there are two facts: 1) no matter what the threat, short of a 100% confirmed, Democrats-signatures-on-the-document, sworn oath agreement on intel that there is a sure-fire nuke attack coming on a U.S. city, no one in the Bush administration will launch another “pre-emptive” strike for the rest of this term. Won’t happen. 2) Israel cannot do this again, and certainly not without at least knowing in advance we won’t condemn them. They would have to overfly U.S.-controlled airspace-—not Arab or Iraqi airspace as they did before-— and we absolutely won’t let them do this.


49 posted on 06/24/2008 4:45:09 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of News)
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To: Southack

Fine analysis.


50 posted on 06/24/2008 8:00:36 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: Perdogg
I have to respectfully disagree.
That would be the perfect time to strike Iran ( since the world knows the US and Israel is going to do it any how ) because I don't think China would want to lose face or do any kind of disruption of their Olympics..... they would say out of it for that reason.
Most Gulf state countries have already told us privately ( go for it, we want you to strike Iran .. you have out blessing ).
51 posted on 06/24/2008 8:04:04 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: dragnet2
Our air force is not busy, nor is our Navy.
52 posted on 06/24/2008 8:07:13 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

The only reason I can see for waiting until they’re in the final stages of building a bomb is that’s when you have the maximum amount of fissible material and technical expertise, all in one place and at the same time.


53 posted on 06/24/2008 8:09:42 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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