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The Hobbit Hole XXXVI - O! Water cold we may pour at need...

Posted on 05/03/2008 8:48:06 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog

Welcome to The Hobbit Hole!

Sing hey! for the bath at close of day
That washes the weary mud away!
A loon is he that will not sing:
O! Water Hot is anoble thing!

O! Sweet is the sound of falling rain.
and the brook that leaps from hill to plain;
but better than rain or rippling streams
is Water Hot that smokes and steams.

O! Water cold we may pour at need
down a thirsty throat and be glad indeed;
but better is Beer, if drink we lack,
and Water Hot poured down the back.

O! Water is fair that leaps on high
in a fountain white beneath the sky;
but never did fountain sound so sweet
as splashing Hot Water with my feet!

See also: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net

Web page for our moot reports and troop support information!





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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Got a precious! Very unusual for me.


4,801 posted on 08/20/2008 12:00:13 AM PDT by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (DEATH TO PUTIN!)
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To: Ramius
The European martial art tradition is that much more about killing, and ruthlessly.

Which is why the gun replaced everything else. And why the Europeans decided they should let the government take their guns for safekeeping.

4,802 posted on 08/20/2008 12:13:23 AM PDT by 300winmag (Deterrence is an activity, Destruction is a profession)
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To: Ramius

That is an awfully cool hobby! And a great way to spend more money on beautiful deadly things.


4,803 posted on 08/20/2008 5:17:18 AM PDT by JenB
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To: Ramius

Good morning! This is real rain coming down now... been coming down all night. We may actually get the pasture to turn green with this.

Looks like you picked a bad week to haul dirt...


4,804 posted on 08/20/2008 6:45:28 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog; Overtaxed
cat
more cat pictures
4,805 posted on 08/20/2008 7:16:48 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://dontgomovement.com/)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Yep. Too darn wet. Oh well.


4,806 posted on 08/20/2008 8:24:15 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
the movie ‘the Prince of Foxes’. starring Tyrone Power and Orson Welles

No, I don't think I've seen it... sounds interesting. And I don't personally have anything in particular against the rapier. I don't know enough yet to have an educated opinion... but just that some of the old German masters didn't care for it much. The Italians loved it. Our club is developing a curriculum for it.

4,807 posted on 08/20/2008 8:30:49 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla
In the show I saw on the History Channel, the folks they were using, who were re-enacters at those medieval dinner theatres around the country, were using titanium swords, because steel swords are too likely to shatter and injuring people with their shards.

OK, I do know where to begin, after all. I may not know much yet but one of the first things I learned was that you never intentionally parry edge-on-edge, with any sword. This is the biggest single mistake you'll see made in movies and staged productions. That's what those guys were doing too. And yeah, that's why they'd break swords. Especially if they were using brittle stainless stage props.

Imagine taking two of your best chef's knives... put one on the counter sharp edge up and hit it hard with the edge of another, over and over. What's going to happen? Of course, you're going to have two ruined blades with massive nicks and chips in them. It may not even be fixable. The nicks will create weak spots and it will likely eventually break at one of them. A sword in medieval times cost many months' wages, perhaps like buying a car today. To let that kind of damage happen on purpose is unthinkable.

Instead, what you'd train to do is to parry with the ~flat~ of the blade. Just turn it slightly and meet his edge with your flat. A sword will flex when hit on the flat, like a leaf spring. It gives a little and cushions the blow, plus it is spread across a wide area. You can do this over and over all day without nicking or chipping either one. It may dull a little, but any dulling can easily be resharpened. So simple, yet so often ignored.

This is supported by archaeological evidence. Most ancient swords recovered in digs, if the steel survived at all, tend not to show many nicks or chips in the edges or stress fractures from same.

Titanium would be absurdly light weight and super whippy. It wouldn't handle or feel anything like a real sword. That's just goofy.

4,808 posted on 08/20/2008 9:19:22 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: 300winmag
Which is why the gun replaced everything else.

Well, like the old saying goes:

"Those who live by the sword, get shot by those who don't."

:-)

4,809 posted on 08/20/2008 9:21:26 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Ramius
Nobody today is really ever going to be fighting for their very life with a sword, against another swordsman. No matter how realistic you try to make your practices... it’s just not going to ever have that essential element of the fight to the death. In that way, nobody in the modern world can ever really be qualified to take the title “Master” with a sword.

I like that....

4,810 posted on 08/20/2008 9:47:29 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

Heh...when I was little, we were hooked on Robin Hood and also “The Boy’s King Arthur”, which I actually just had out. Pretty brutal, that one. Pages of detailed head bashing and bowel spilling. Lovely.

It’s interesting that even all these centuries later, there is still so much appeal to the old tales of knights and kings, lords and ladies, sword play and archery....


4,811 posted on 08/20/2008 9:52:34 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: Ramius; Lucius Cornelius Sulla
OK, I do know where to begin, after all. I may not know much yet but one of the first things I learned was that you never intentionally parry edge-on-edge, with any sword. This is the biggest single mistake you'll see made in movies and staged productions.

There were horror stories from my college's production of "Camelot." The used wooden swords as props.

One night Lancelot slipped and Arthur almost lost his head...literally.

4,812 posted on 08/20/2008 10:06:17 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://dontgomovement.com/)
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To: Ramius
Ah Ha!

Actually, it's a buck-and-a-quarter quarterstaff...

4,813 posted on 08/20/2008 10:09:39 AM PDT by Overtaxed (My reality works for me.)
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To: JenB
And a great way to spend more money on beautiful deadly things.

It is certainly that. :-)

4,814 posted on 08/20/2008 10:12:01 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Overtaxed

[snicker]


4,815 posted on 08/20/2008 10:13:43 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Corin Stormhands; Overtaxed

Jackson was at the office when Animal Control picked up Phoenix, the Rhodesian Ridgeback. Honest!!

LSA


4,816 posted on 08/20/2008 10:28:57 AM PDT by osagebowman
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To: osagebowman

Poor Phoenix...


4,817 posted on 08/20/2008 10:41:01 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://dontgomovement.com/)
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To: osagebowman

Oh no...did he manage to jump the fence again?

Poor Phoenix....


4,818 posted on 08/20/2008 11:21:31 AM PDT by RosieCotton
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To: RosieCotton

I don’t know how Phoenix escaped; our repaired fence is just fine so he didn’t make it out through our yard. I think he’s just so darn bored, he’s a big dog in a 6 foot wooden enclosure about 8 x 40. He can’t see anything except through a chain link gate that leads to another fenced in area.

One day last month he and the pit bull broke through into our neighbor’s backyard and were having the best time just running and rolling in the grass and chasing each other. I left a head’s up on my neighbor’s front door so they wouldn’t just send their 8 year old out to play. The naybor’s dogs had the good sense to stay in the basement while Phoenix and the pit were in their backyard.

LSA


4,819 posted on 08/20/2008 11:54:07 AM PDT by osagebowman
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To: osagebowman

Jackson....

Phone skilz...he haz them.


4,820 posted on 08/20/2008 1:01:19 PM PDT by Overtaxed (My reality works for me.)
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