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To: Clint N. Suhks

I’m willing to concede that Australian Cattle Dogs and Australian Shepards are at the top of the list. Anybody who has ever worked with these dogs would put them on the top ten list.

And I’m willing to put a bunch of dogs at the bottom.

But Poodles?? Aw, come on! I’d put my westies up again the poodles and Westies surely aren’t in the top ten. (Plus, the whole ‘foo foo’ thing just makes my skin crawl to the point where I don’t even look at poodles as being dogs as much as accessories).

So let me just apologize in advance to all the FR poodle lovers out there. I admit that I am heinously biased. And although I am unapologetic, I’m sure your particular poodle is undeserving of my skepticism. And I’m sure your grandchild is cute as well. (okay, that was just a gratuitious shot but I did mention that I was unrepentent didn’t I?)


34 posted on 04/28/2008 1:21:48 PM PDT by bpjam (Drill For Oil or Lose Your Job!! Vote Nov 3, 2008)
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To: bpjam

Full size standard poodles are huge!.......

39 posted on 04/28/2008 1:23:49 PM PDT by Red Badger ( We don't have science, but we do have consensus.......)
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To: bpjam

Poodles probably hate the foo foo thing too. I knew a herd of standard black untrimmed poodles who lived at a dude ranch we went to for years who were the most delightful intelligent companion animals you could ever want to meet.

I think my Cardigan Welsh Corgi was the smartest dog in the world.


68 posted on 04/28/2008 1:38:02 PM PDT by Veto! (OpiniChowons freely dispensed as advice)
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To: bpjam
But Poodles?? Aw, come on!

Smartest dog we ever owned was a toy poodle.. none other we have owned has came close... showed her for a few years. She was absolutely brilliant.

141 posted on 04/28/2008 2:42:56 PM PDT by LowOiL ("I don't need Mr. Keyes lecturing me on Christianity. That's why I have a pastor." — Barack Obama)
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To: bpjam
Poodles are another case of divergence within a breed.

It's the Standard Poodles that are pretty smart.

The toy and miniatures have been bred mostly for size, so brains aren't necessarily part of the package. There are some smart ones, but you're just as likely to draw a dumb one.

But while the Standards are smart, they aren't really very good retrievers any more. There is a couple in our hunting retriever club that is trying their hardest to get their Standard Poodles ready for a hunt test. Now, don't get me wrong, these are very smart dogs. But while they were originally gun dogs and water dogs centuries ago, they have lost most of the desire to retrieve, especially in water. They just don't WANT to get in the water to pick up that duck . . . they'll do it, but very reluctantly (while the ruder members of the gallery are hooting and hollering that they don't want to chip their nail polish or mess up their hairdo).

Meanwhile the Labs and Chessies are hitting the water at a dead run with huge splashes and great big grins . . . the problem is keeping them OUT of water.

I guess really the point of all this is that it's easier to get a dog to do what he's been bred for, than to just out of stubbornness or to prove a point try to train a dog to do something he wasn't bred for.

147 posted on 04/28/2008 2:49:14 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: bpjam
We've got an Aussie Shepard.

Extremely intelligent dog.

Also very territorial and protective. High energy, too. Not the kind of dog for everyone, but we love him and he takes care of us.

184 posted on 04/28/2008 4:47:39 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: bpjam

Standard poodles are fantastic dogs, and brilliant. The little ones are terrible.


228 posted on 04/29/2008 5:37:45 AM PDT by teenyelliott (Soylent green should be made outta liberals...)
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