Posted on 03/07/2008 11:56:33 AM PST by GQuagmire
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and your third grade teacher have some strikingly wrong similarities Theyre both bloated, dowdy and prissy fossils that are way too full of unconditional love. Oh, and they both get positively giddy over James Taylors chardonnay-and-brie, adult-contemporary lullabies.
The Hall of Fame induction committee has never wanted to hurt anyones feelings or make tough decisions - like actually defining what is and isnt rock n roll - so for 22 years it has distributed inductions like Miss Anderson handed out ribbons on diorama day.
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What Gibb song did Elvis actually record back in the ‘50’s ( when Lennon was listening to the Big “E” during his formative years ) ?
Speaking of B list “rockers” here’s a great and funny site for those who have some time to kill and are into music;
Yacht Rock ( click on the song titles )
http://www.yachtrock.com/
Wow, only 101 posts and this thread seems to be dying. I thought this one had legs, especially on a Friday night. Actually, I’m grateful for this thread because it just made me think of a new tag line: “John McCain is to the Republican Party as James Taylor is to the the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.”
LOLOLOL!!!!
You may be really smart about somethings, but this is one education you don’t have!
That is if I could figure out how to set up a tag. I've looked everywhere. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
Otherwise, it's as you said, and Johnny Lydon would no doubt agree. It's best to ignore this travesty. (Billy Joel? Geez, how about Bobby Goldsboro too? He was on the Stones 2nd U.S. tour after all!)
There's nothing inherently wrong with covering other people's songs. The simple fact is the Airplane was a much better group than was the Great Society. After Bathing at Baxters is a true masterpiece. Compare the Great Society's version of "Someone to Love" with the Airplane's "Somebody to Love", and the original comes off pretty lame. The fact that the Airplane degraded into the Starship atrocity shouldn't matter.
I can't argue with you on the Elevators' influence, but based on their recordings, except for a few songs (e.g. Splash 1, You're Gonna Miss Me), they just weren't that impressive. I have to assume that's one of the bands that was just never captured properly on record.
There are many, many great bands that should be in the hall of fame, but never will be, because of the unworthy and non-rock acts that are getting in.
What do you disagree with?
Unrepentant Stalinist Woody Guthrie is in there, for fuggs sake! He hated rock’n’roll, I read a long time ago in Jann Wenner’s own magazine.
No one has writen more standards in the last 30 years than Joel.
He’s in as an ‘early influence’. Dylan would vouch.
Zimmy played the keys in Bobby Vee’s early band and never played with Guthrie. Is the politically incorrect Bobby Vee in as an early influence?
Figured it out.
Dylan went to NYC initially to visit Woody Guthrie. One of his earliest recorded songs was ‘Song for Woody’. I don’t know enough to comment on Vee.
Check out Wolfmother. They’re great!! Good old fashioned rock n’ roll
It’s horrid music, the lyrics are 90% of why it’s unlistenable tripe. And yes most Rodgers and Hammerstien was horrid too.
Saccharine and worth listening to are mutually exclusive. Saccharine is mostly about lyrical content, rock is really about style. And just in case at one point saccharine and rock were mutually exclusive the hair metal 80s gave us the power ballad, very saccharine but metal (or at least hard rock) and therefore rock.
You can disagree all you want, doesn’t change the facts.
There are a lot of people you can argue are more important in rock history than Elvis. Like all the black guys whose songs he ripped off to build his career.
Now the rest of your post I agree with.
The Great American popular song tradition is mostly horrid then. Who dislikes ‘The Sound of Music’? Anyway great music will hold up any old lyric. Leonard Bernstien talked about how great the Beatles early music was. How they used unusual modal chords and so forth.
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