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Posted on 01/30/2008 12:53:40 PM PST by Lucky9teen

Sneak Preview

Watch tonight to get a sneak peek at this Thursday's premiere episode of Lost!


LOST RETURNS TONIGHT!!!

Through the Looking Glass (Season 3 Finale Episode)
Wed Jan 30 10/9c
Special High Definition enhanced episode with on-screen facts (clues) and back story. Jack and his fellow castaways begin their efforts to make contact with Naomi's rescue ship.



Lost: Past, Present & Future
Thu Jan 31 9/8c
This episode explores the series in a way that will bring new viewers up to date -- but which current viewers will also find illuminating - in anticipation of the fourth season premiere episode. The special will take an in-depth look at the mysteries of both the island and its inhabitants and recap the secrets that have been revealed, as well as those that remain unanswered.

The Beginning of the End
Thu Jan 31 10/9c
Episode Centric: Hurley
Feeling that their rescue is close at hand, the survivors don't know whether to believe Charlie's final message that the people claiming to liberate them are not who they seem to be. The band of friends, family, enemies and strangers must continue to work together against the cruel weather and harsh terrain if they want to stay alive. But as they have discovered during their 70-plus days on the island, danger and mystery loom behind every corner, and those they thought could be trusted may turn against them. Even heroes have secrets...

Guest List
Guest starring are Mira Furlan as Danielle Rousseau, Sam Anderson as Bernard, L. Scott Caldwell as Rose, Tania Raymonde as Alex, Blake Bashoff as Karl, Marsha Thomason as Naomi, Michael Cudlitz as Mike Walton, Lance Reddick as Matthew Abbadon, Grisel Toledo as orderly, Steven Neumeier as Lewis, Billy Ray Gallion as Randy, Jeremy Davies as Daniel Faraday and John Terry as Christian Shephard.


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To: girlscout
DOA: A panic-stricken Bernard called for help when he noticed a body washed ashore. Actually, Vincent deserved the credit for finding it. As for the dearly departed, it was the surly freighter doc who tended to Desmond back when he suffered from that time-displacement ailment. The doctor’s throat was slit, which prompted Jack to ask Daniel when he last saw the medicine man. “When is pretty relative,” the physicist replied cryptically.

Can you hear me now? A round of “Wha?” faces filled the room when the incoming-only phone rang in Locke’s (formerly Ben’s) home. A recorded voice repeated the phrase, “Code 14-J,” and Locke passed it on to the intended party. Ben immediately went into lock-n-load mode, warning the others, “They’re here.” They, as in the gunmen who killed Rousseau and Karl and held Alex captive (aka, the freighter foes).

Close call: With Camp Locke under siege, Ben and the gang barricaded his old digs, but left Sawyer, Claire and some resident nobodies on their own. As expected, those red shirts didn’t fair so well, but Sawyer made it out alive. (Thank goodness for a handy bulletproof picnic table and baddies with random aim). Just as Sawyer approached Claire’s place, a bungalow-bound bazooka took it out. Against the odds, Sawyer still saved Claire.

Low blow: Miles, now freed by his former cohorts, gave Ben a walkie-talkie to chat with Keamy, the man who had his daughter. Ben knew Keamy was a mercenary, and wasn't about to fall for a trick to lure him out, even with Alex at gunpoint. What the head Other didn’t count on was Keamy’s commitment to carry out a threat. He shot Alex while Ben watched. Stunned, Ben said, “He changed the rules.”

The Smoky hand of justice: Remember the terrorizing mystery monster that often haunted and sometimes killed the “good guys”? Smoky disappeared for a while, but it turns out he, or rather it, is a remote controlled security system manned by Ben. The puppet master used his foggy beast to exact deadly revenge on the new baddies. After he said a tearful goodbye to Alex’s body, he rejoined Locke and Hurley for a hike to Jacob’s hut. Sawyer decided he’d had enough of the creepy Locke and Ben show, and took Claire and Aaron back toward the beach.

Dead is pretty relative, too: Daniel repaired his radiophone and sent a Morse code message to the ship to find out what happened with the doctor. When the reply came back, Daniel said the message didn’t address the doctor, but that the helicopter would be on the way back soon. “He’s lying,” Bernard shot back. Using his own mad Morse code skillz, he told the group what the message really said. “What are you talking about? The doctor is fine.” An enraged Jack demanded Daniel tell him if the freighter crew was ever really going to get them off the island. “No.”

The beginning of the alliance: A year into the future revealed Ben on a manhunt in Iraq. Not coincidently, a grief-stricken Sayid was there, too, burying his lost love, Nadia. Ben planned to take out the man who killed Nadia, an agent for Charles Widmore. When he learned of the plan, Sayid became the triggerman. After the deed was done, he promised to continue working for Ben. The rest is future history.

An eye for an eye: Later, on a solo mission, Ben broke into Charles Widmore’s London penthouse. He blamed the tycoon for Alex’s death. Though Ben was unable to kill Mr. Widmore (darn those pesky rules), he assured Widmore he would kill his daughter, Penny. “Once she’s gone — once she’s dead — you’ll understand how I feel.”

201 posted on 04/25/2008 7:09:30 AM PDT by girlscout
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To: Lucky9teen
The dirt on ‘Lost’
Cast and crew endure rain, mud and aggressive insects to create the compelling ABC drama in the jungles of Oahu
By Katherine Nichols
knichols@starbulletin.com

Working on a hit television show sounds glamorous. Until you actually do it. On this day in a jungle in Heeia, on Oahu's Windward side, slate-colored skies threaten rain. On the set -- a brief yet bumpy off-road drive from base camp, where trailers and a rudimentary buffet are stationed -- the crew erects two canopies. But humans don't warrant shelter. Cameras and monitors do. A communal can of bug spray and canvas chairs provide the only respite from mud, wild foliage and aggressive insects.

In those chairs sit actors Michael Emerson, Terry O'Quinn and Jorge Garcia, dutifully subjecting themselves to makeup artists who proceed to worsen their appearance. An artist dips a brush into a painter's palette to add more purple blotches under Emerson's eyes. Another tends to O'Quinn's scar. Garcia tilts his head to accommodate a hair specialist who fiddles with his long locks. Next up? Faux dirt on arms and neck.

It's all part of the much-anticipated return of "Lost" on Thursday, which signals the beginning of what the crew calls "Season 4.5." The episode features Michael Emerson (Ben Linus) in a pivotal role involving strenuous work (horses! fighting!) that launches the furious ride to the May 29 finale.

The writers strike interrupted what began as a stellar year, with the first eight episodes landing solidly in Nielsen's Top 10. Everyone returned to work last month, and a mighty scramble to finish five of the eight remaining episodes ensued (subsequent seasons will compensate with extra episodes). Everything must be completed before the hiatus begins next month. So multiple units shoot scenes from several episodes in various locations simultaneously, not necessarily in chronological order, leaving the actors moderately confused about continuity and their characters' state of mind at any given moment.

During the alfresco makeup session, Emerson consults director Paul Edwards about Ben. The word "sociopath" floats in the air. One moment Ben is charging about, shouting orders. The next he mopes and whines. "I'm just curious about the change of character," says Emerson. Next to him, Terry O'Quinn plants a yellow straw hat on his head between scenes, strums his ukulele and sings in a soft, melodic voice, letting his large hunting knife dangle at his side.

After a brief lunch break at 4 p.m., the night session begins. Along the way, there's a campfire to monitor, and someone with arms the size of a cyclist's thighs must move rocks. Nearby, a crew member practices his steady cam shots by running alongside anyone who appears in his path. Another tinkers with a fake shotgun.

The actors don't sit for long before it's time to do it all again. Repetitive performances must stay fresh. Several rehearsals take place before any film is shot. Each scene finishes with directions to the camera operators about extreme close-ups and angles, as well as discussion among the actors about the mood or timing of lines and movements. Before the director shouts "Action!" trucks, vans, cranes and dozens of people must fall silent. And they do this again and again, reminding any observer just how many hours of work necessitate every 30 seconds of compelling television drama.

202 posted on 04/25/2008 7:12:22 AM PDT by girlscout
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To: girlscout
where's lucky9teen with their updates and pings? hope everything is okay.

Meanwhile, what did everyone think about this episode? Why can't Ben kill Widmore? Who's "rules" are they supposed to be following? What was the deal with Ben waking up in the middle of the sahara? Does he teleport, too?

Isn't Sayid's luck just the worst?
203 posted on 04/28/2008 8:05:41 AM PDT by Texas2step (<><)
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To: acad1228; Anitius Severinus Boethius; Anti-MSM; babyfreep; BallyBill; big'ol_freeper; ...
Ya'll have to forgive me for not sending out the Ping for last week's episode of Lost....I was out with that nasty flu bug and boy did it do a number on me... ;(

Anyhew....here is the latest LOST REPORT:

My Serious, Logical Thoughts on The Shape of Things to Come

Welcome to the shape of things to come

TITLE
Comes from the flashforward by Ben

QUANTUM CREEP
Ben seems to magically teleport to the Sahara. You notice her is wearing a heavy coat in a desert. Also he is laying on the ground and in distress. He has a wound on his arm and it looks like a little ice might be on his arm. The theory of teleportation fits in well with things we have seen previously. The airplane carrying the brother of Eko and do not forget the polar bear found by Charlotte in Africa. That is two African connections right there. The father of Locke also seems to have come to the island via teleportation. One gets the feeling that there is a direction teleportation device between the island and Africa. This would also mean that Ben lied about the boat of Desmond and taking it to Fiji. It would not be the first time he has lied. He also lied about the monster as Locke pointed out. He lies about a lot of things. So much for his claim to Juliet that he is not a liar.

That was a smooth move Ben made to take out those two guys in the Sahara. Ben as the hotel clerk what the date is including the year hinting that when Ben abruptly left the island he may also have been transported through time. The name Moriarty used by Ben was also the name of the Villain of Sherlock Holmes. What time did Ben come from? What it also 2005 when he left the island? I say yes. Also notice that this comment negates the claim of Ben that he traveled to Africa in the boat of Desmond. He would most like know the date if he came to Africa by normal means. But it makes much more sense that if he teleported to Africa that he might need to ask the date. The reason why Sayid appears on African television is because he is one of the Oceanic Six and everything they do is news. Apparently the Oceanic Six have won international fame.

RULES OF THE GAME
In the game of Risk that they are playing notice Hurley says that Australia is the key to the whole game. Oddly flight 815 also left from Australia. Is Hurley only talking about Risk or could his statement have a double meaning also referring to Australia as their point of departure?

DIAL Y FOR YESTERDAY
When Faraday contacts the boat about the dead doctor it seems the doctor is fine. The message from the island to the boat seems to have gone back in time slightly to a point where the doctor was still ok. I wonder who killed him and why? Michael during an escape attempt perhaps? The captain did just find out that Michael is a spy and we never saw and repercussions of that yet.

The speaking back in time is very similar to an episode of Deep Space Nine called The Sound of Her Voice in which the crew of the Defiant spoke with a woman who had been dead for several years. They explained the time lapse by the strange atmosphere of the planet she was on.

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/DS9/episode/100545.html

That is why when Faraday is asked when he last saw the doctor he said that time was relative. This is most like a reference to the theory of relativity in which time is relative. In the theory, for things that move very fast near the speed of light time slows down. It also happens in very large gravitational fields. It is hard to see how either of those applies here since the island is not moving very fast compared to the boat and there is not extreme gravity on the island. It must be a new effect. I would guess electromagnetics is somehow involved or maybe it is something else entirely new.

BODY COUNT
The writers have no qualms about killing protagonists or extras as can been clearly seen in this episode. The final body count is unclear but included: 3 LOSTaways, the doctor, Alex, perhaps as many as 6 mercenaries and one bell rung. Sawyer hints that some of the mercenaries survived when he says to Miles that your helicopter buddies went that way. Will Miles change sides now and join the LOSTaways?

WHO MOURNS FOR SMOKEY
How does Ben call the monster? Did Ben control the monster when it killed Eko? The smokey monster reminds me of a star trek episode called Metamorphosis

http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episode/68722.html

In this one kirk is able to speak to a cloud being using a Universal Translator. The cloud being sort of sparkled not unlike the smokey monster but smoke is blacker. You can see the cloud being again, sort of, in the Futurama episode Where no Fan has Gone Before. Does Ben also have a Universal Translator?

WHO MOURNS FOR MORSE
The abandoned Morse code is used by Faraday to contact the ship. Finally after being found a liar he admits that they have no intention of rescuing the LOSTaways. What Ben says is probably true. They probably intend on killing everyone on the island hence the season opening episode The Beginning of the End. Ben was right. Jack should have never made that call on the cell phone. I am sure that Jack will be shown regretting this in a flashforward.

QUESTIONS AND STATEMENTS
Why does Jacob trust Hurley to reveal himself to him? Why is Ben unable to kill Charles Widmore as mentioned in this episode? Ben mentioned that Charles changed the rules. This implies that Ben and Charles are playing some kind of game for control of the island. The game seems to have rules. One of these rules must be that one cannot kill the other so Ben cannot kill him. Also notice the mercenaries wanted Ben alive else they would have just torched his house. Perhaps the board game Risk was presented to subconsciously put the idea of a game into our minds. What does Charles mean when he says that everything Ben has he took from him? This probably refers to Ben annihilating DHARMA and taking over the island. It is a safe bet that Widmore was financially backing DHARMA.

Ishmael is the name of the killer of Nadia and is a biblical name. We have also seen the name Isaac in a previous episode thus both brothers Isaac and Ishmael have now been mentioned in the series.

When the monster shows up it is very dark, but is was clear day before.

When Locke and Sawyer have a standoff about Hurley it looks like Everybody Loves Hugo eh? Anyway we know Hurley will be ok since he is one of the Oceanic Six.

We also see how Sayid got involved with Ben as a hired gun.

Check out http://darkufo.blogspot.com/ for more reviews and episode "thoughts"...
204 posted on 04/28/2008 9:09:13 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Note to McCain: The voters are not united FOR you, they are uniting AGAINST Clinton/Obama)
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To: Texas2step
Ask and ye shall receive [in regards to Lucky that is]. Photobucket

I enjoyed the episode but it caught me by surprise. There wasn't much advertising about it's return and I almost missed it.

As strange as this may sound, perhaps Ben believes in sticking to the rules and that's why he can't or won't kill Widmore. That old man is evil and deserves a good killin'.

Their "game" or "rules" caught me by surprise. Ben went to this island as a child, how did he develop any kind of relationship with Widmore? At what time did this happen? As usual, more questions pop up when others are answered.

I assume that Ben has teleport powers as well. That's the only explanation my small mind can come with at this point.

Other than Barbara Hersey in real life, yeah, Sayid's luck is pretty rotten. To find his love Nadia after being stuck on the island for however long they were there and then to have her die ... There is speculation that Ben killed her to reel Sayid in as a partner. If that's true Ben's a dead man when Sayid finds out ... and he will find out.

205 posted on 04/28/2008 9:44:00 AM PDT by girlscout
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To: Lucky9teen; MomwithHope; Texas2step; MarkMyWord; All
I found this on-line and thought I'd share it with you. Maybe a little insight into Ben ... or maybe not.

Death, Dear Ones and the Monster: Michael Emerson Talks Lost

In case you weren't paying attention last night, Michael Emerson, our beloved Benry, turned in an astonishing performance that was earning Emmy buzz before it even aired, and as far as I'm concerned, no one has ever done better work humanizing a supervillain.

I just rang up Michael to get his take on Lost's big game, Ben's current state of mind after the brutal death of [sobbing drowns out spoiler], and, oh yeah, his brilliant explanation of the monster's mechanics. Click in for the goods.

FAMILY AND UPPING THE ANTE

What's going on internally for Ben in that minute after Alex has been shot dead?
Well, Ben is in a state of shock. Ben doesn't usually...Ben plays a game where a variety of outcomes are to be expected, but nothing outside the table of contents. In this case, something happened. Ben took what he thought was a safe risk, and it turned out to be a terrible risk. Someone else didn't play fair, so it's about as big a shock as Ben as ever had in his life.

Jumping to the end of episode then, Charles Widmore says, I didn't kill your daughter, you did. How much does Ben feel culpable in her death?
Ben is a guy who doesn't take things lightly, and I think he has a long memory. When Charles Widmore says that it's Ben's fault—that's a kind of sophistry on his part. He's suggesting that everything Ben has ever done has led up to this moment, the idea that who we are makes us guilty across the board. But Ben's not having that explanation.

I think Ben knows that his daughter died for a very particular reason, and that Charles Widmore is the guilty one. Whatever is going on between Ben and Charles Widmore, the ante just got raised about tenfold.

In the next episode there's a scene where it looks like Sawyer might get the chance to kill Keamy, who killed Alex. Is that the kind of thing that Ben would want to do personally, or is Ben more of a big-picture thinker, just gunning for Charles?
I think Ben is in a state of bloody-mindedness right now. I think he would like to personally pull the trigger on everyone connected. And we'll see whether he has that opportunity.

Interesting. Do you expect to see Danielle and Alex again, hopefully, in one capacity or another? And what has it been like working with Tania Raymonde and Mira Furlan?
I love both these actresses, and it feels like when a dear coworker moves on to somewhere, you feel sad and lonesome...and you realize how much you've personally got invested in these fictional relationships. You know how nobody is ever fully dead on Lost, so...I don't expect that we've seen the last of them. But maybe we've seen the last of them in their fleshly state.

So Danielle doesn't pop up in the next episode with just a minor flesh wound and come after Ben or anything?
I don't—I don't think that's gonna happen...

Speaking of Danielle, I was hoping she would eventually get to kill Ben.
[Laughs.] What a strange wish on your part.

THE LADY JULIET

Well, I say this with the utmost respect and love for the character, but Ben's an unkillable cockroach, and yet you would have to imagine someone eventually gets him. Juliet, perhaps?
Well, Juliet is certainly a dangerous character. I think more dangerous than we know at this point, and certainly there are issues between Juliet and Ben that have yet to be resolved. But you know, Ben's...his whole existence may end up being redeemed by the gravity and necessity of his mission.

Speaking of Juliet, that whole "You're mine!" opened so many more questions of what does he want from her. And then...I'm pretty sure Elizabeth Mitchell is like a foot taller than you, does that ever come into play when you guys are shooting scenes together?
[Laughs.] Yes, I have to say, that was not one of Ben's prettier moments, there at the place where Goodwin met his demise. You know, when Ben gets outside his comfort zone, like many men who are geniuses or men of sophistication, there is some part of him, to compensate, that has been undeveloped. I think Ben is maybe socially or emotionally somewhat underdeveloped. So sometimes, when he's stressed, he behaves like a teenager. Sort of. To me. So he says things bitterly...I think he possibly regrets them later, but he does behave impulsively sometimes. For this character who is supposed to be so calculated and such a chess player, he really does behave impulsively upon occasion.

Does he want to marry Juliet so she can have a million of his babies?
I don't think he even has a clear picture what he wants. That he wants is all he knows. She is a prize in his mind. Who knows what his sex life is, or ever would be? But somehow he's decided that she is to be his.

MYTHS AND MONSTERS

Do you almost feel like after that conversation with Charles we suddenly learned that Ben is the hero of the show, even though we didn't know he existed for the first season or two?
It feels like some kind of shift along those lines is happening, doesn't it? Because each season, it's like the lens of the show steps back a notch and shows the playing field of the show to be a larger one that we had thought at first.

I think this battle between Charles Widmore and Benjamin Linus, whatever it is, whatever the stakes are, whatever the game is, I think that's now big. That's a big, important thing.

And I think, I don't know if it's just from familiarity or instinct, but I think we like Ben Linus better than we like Charles Widmore. I think Charles Widmore is a more wicked man.

Partly just because Charles is really mean to Desmond, whereas Ben has always been very courtly and gentlemanly. He'll beat you to death, but he'll say thank you when he's done or something.
Yes. [Laughs.] That's right. Manners count, don't they? Come on!

OK I have some fan questions, if you don't mind. Harry asks: "Is Ben the monster's boss? Is Ben able to just take the monster out of his cage?" What's your sense of that whole thing?
Ben is privy to the secret mechanics of everything on the Island, so yes, he can sic the smoke monster—smoke's not the right word, but he can sic that thing on someone. But we don't yet know the recipe or the formula for how that's done, and we don't know what it costs. There seem to be a lot of forces on the Island, but nothing is for free. A toll is paid every time the machinery works. Everything is bargained.

Tom asks, "Did you have any sense that between the time Ben disappeared into the tunnel, and came back sooty later, that he was essentially in a time bubble where he worked out that Sayid would help him take down Charles Widmore, or do you think that was genuinely in the future?
"I had it in my head that those things were genuinely in the future. But the passage of time is being perceived differently by different people. I thought that period of time when he went down the tunnel to enable the smoke monster and emerged sooty, I thought that was just enough time for him to take care of that, physically, by himself.

I think it all has something to do with metallic dust. I think the smoke monster is connected to that ring of powder that surrounds Jacob's cabin. They've established that there are supermagnetic forces are at work on the Island, so what better medium for those forces to work through than through fine filings of metal?

Would you like join the Lost fandom?
Because you would be really good at it.We who work on the show—we're all Losties, too! We're all theorizing and trying to put the pieces together. It must tickle the writers to see us trying to work these things out!

OK, last question. Mark from Dundee, Scotland: "Where do you think Ben stands on a scale of one to 10 where one is Hurley, totally good; five is Locke, good but willing to do bad things to achieve his ends; and 10 is Charles Widmore, evil?
"I think Ben is not bound by your scale.

God love you, sir. Want more of Michael Emerson's answers and personal brand of awesome? Check out the Lost Redux and tune in to the spoiler chat on Monday and we'll get you the hookup! Meanwhile, I want and expect you all to testify toward Michael's Emmy in the comments below. Go.

—Reporting by Jennifer Godwin http://www.eonline.com/gossip/kristin/detail/index.jsp?uuid=8238465c-26fb-4a93-9fa4-629af9f8b05c

206 posted on 04/28/2008 2:00:24 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: Lucky9teen
In the game of Risk that they are playing notice Hurley says that Australia is the key to the whole game. Oddly flight 815 also left from Australia. Is Hurley only talking about Risk or could his statement have a double meaning also referring to Australia as their point of departure?

For Hurley, especially, Australia is the key. Hurley's asylum-pal Leonard learned the "cursed lotto numbers" from Sam Toomey of Kalgoorlie, Australia (vide "Numbers").

Question raised: Did Charles Widmore somehow "send" Desmond to the Island, or did Jacob/Ben "call" Desmond to it, as a piece in the chess-match between Charles and Ben for control of the Island -- and now with Penny's life as a stake?

207 posted on 04/28/2008 6:57:18 PM PDT by Dajjal
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Episode S4E10 - Something Nice Back Home
Episode Centric: Jack


Guest List
Guest starring are Ken Leung as Miles, Jeremy Davies as Daniel Faraday, Rebecca Mader as Charlotte, Jeff Fahey as Frank Lapidus, Sam Anderson as Bernard, L. Scott Caldwell as Rose and Kevin Durand as Keamy.

Synopsis
When Jack's health is seriously compromised, Kate and Juliet must learn to work together in order to save him; and something goes wrong as Sawyer, Claire, Aaron and Miles continue their trek away from Locke’s camp and back to the beach.
208 posted on 05/01/2008 3:01:47 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Note to McCain: The voters are not united FOR you, they are uniting AGAINST Clinton/Obama)
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To: Lucky9teen
"Something goes wrong?!?"

I love this show!

209 posted on 05/01/2008 3:38:11 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Lucky9teen


MORE SMOKE MONSTER!
210 posted on 05/01/2008 3:56:30 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: Lucky9teen

Great episode. I feel sorry for Hurley, he was such a happy character. I think Kate must have been on an errand for Sawyer that involved his daughter and her mother whom Kate met earlier. Do Sawyer and Claire wind up together?? Does Jack know Claire is his sister? I think so, I bet they both see the dad at the same time in the jungle and the connection is revealed. Can’t wait til next week!


211 posted on 05/02/2008 6:38:16 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Our country sure has some slim pickin's on both sides for 2008!)
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To: Lucky9teen

Nice to see you back, Lucky. Hope you’re feeling all better now.


212 posted on 05/04/2008 8:19:11 PM PDT by Fudd Fan (I'm a fan of DDT! and anthracite coal!)
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To: Fudd Fan; acad1228; Anitius Severinus Boethius; Anti-MSM; babyfreep; BallyBill; big'ol_freeper; ...

Thank you for your thoughts.

Here is the latest LOST REPORT:

My Serious, Logical Thoughts on Something Nice From Home

Welcome to Something nice from home

TITLE
Refers to a remark that Bernard made to Jack just before his operation. Bernard is chosen to help with the operation because he is a dentist and maybe the closest thing they have.

ITS ALL RELATIVE
When Kate mentions her son after confessing to Jack about helping Sawyer, Jack mentions that Kate is not related to Aaron. Ironically Jack is related to Aaron. Recall that Jack and Claire share the same father. But does Jack know this? In this episode my feeling is that no he does not. Perhaps the ghost of the father of Jack will inform Jack of this fact. The ghost of Charlie seems to know stuff so why not the father of Jack? Jack meets his father at night when fixing a smoke alarm. One cannot help but see a slight parallel between this and a Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens. The father of Jack is the ghost of Christmas past come to tell him the true meaning of Christmas – I mean the island. Look for more of the ghost of the father of Jack in future episodes. Eventually Jack will have to leave Kate because of it.

RAISE THE AARON
The message Charlie sends to Jack that he is not supposed to raise him meaning Aaron is straight from the episode Raised by Another in which Claire is specifically warned not to let someone else raise Aaron. But Kate is raising Aaron – not Claire. What will be the consequences of this? Will Aaron now grow up to become a world dictator? What fate befell Claire so that Kate got control of Aaron? Either Claire is dead, lost on the island or willingly gave up control of Aaron to Kate. The disappearance of Claire and the abandonment of her baby suggest that Claire has been abducted or has been entranced by the ghost of her own father. What mother would leave her own baby alone in the jungle? Claire would not do that so something is surely amiss.

SAWYER AND KATE
By the way, what did Sawyer ask Kate to do for him? Maybe Sawyer asked Kate to either look out for his daughter or to participate in some con.

MANY ARE CALLED, FEW ARE FROZEN
Notice that Jack says that Sawyer CHOSE to stay behind. This means that at least some of the LOSTaways had a choice in whether or not they stayed behind. I theorize that some of them had a choice but most did not, probably due to limited space on the helicopter. Also many of the LOSTaways probably do not trust the boat people after having found that Charlotte and Faraday lied to them. They might have thought that their lives would be in danger if they left on the boat.

REQUIUM FOR DANIELLE AND ALEX
I find the death of Danielle and Alex shocking – just shocking. And then to see Danielle buried like that. It was just awful. It does not mean that we will not see them again. I would still like to see the Danielle flashback episode. Also look for the ghost of Danielle to make an appearance. It could happen. Why should it not? Also there are some unanswered questions. What disease did the crew of Danielle have? I theorize that her crew suffered from the same condition as George Minkowski. He sort of became unstuck in time and without a constant ended up dead. That makes sense because if it was a plague why would none of the LOSTaways have caught it? But the ship of Danielle came to the island and we know that the two men from the small boat got too close to the island and became unstuck in time.

OTHER RAMBLINGS
What are the odds that Charlotte speaks Korean? Charlotte is a scientist, but that sure is an odd coincidence. From her interaction with Jin we kind of get an inkling of how it ends up that Sun gets on the helicopter but Jin does not. Jin also promises to save her and her child. He does not mention himself.

Much to my surprise several soldiers survived the attack from the smoke monster. I pretty much thought that thing was invincible. I would really like to know how they did that. Maybe they just ran fast. But that one guy was really hurt and needed to be carried. How did he make it out?


213 posted on 05/05/2008 4:08:52 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Note to McCain: The voters are not united FOR you, they are uniting AGAINST Clinton/Obama)
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To: Lucky9teen

I have a lost theory. I think that Jack’s dad is some sort of ghost. I think Claire went with him because somehow she died and he was helping her to the other side. Remember she was saying that she was dizzy after the house explosion. Maybe she was more seriously hurt, and died in her sleep.

Anyway, it’s my theory.


214 posted on 05/05/2008 5:12:21 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: luckystarmom

I think you’re right. I noticed that when Sawyer found her, she was covered by a sheet. At the time I thought that was kind of goofy, given the fact that the rest of the house was blown to smithereens. Also, Miles the Ghostbuster was just a little too interested in here. I think she’s dead.


215 posted on 05/06/2008 5:57:55 AM PDT by danno3150
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To: luckystarmom; All
Ok, every time I see this on ABC (turned upside down so you can see what I see), or watching online episodes...it drives me crazy...it's totally a city scape, but what city?



Anyone?
216 posted on 05/06/2008 2:15:01 PM PDT by Lucky9teen (Note to McCain: The voters are not united FOR you, they are uniting AGAINST Clinton/Obama)
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To: acad1228; Anitius Severinus Boethius; Anti-MSM; babyfreep; BallyBill; big'ol_freeper; ...

The LOST Report

My Serious, Logical Thoughts on Cabin Fever

Welcome to cabin fever

TITLE
This actually has a double meaning. First there is the obvious one where Locke, Hurley and Ben are looking for the cabin but then there is the cabin fever suffered by the crew of the ship. The captain accuses Keamy of suffering from it in this episode.

OPENING SEQUENCE
The music playing is called Everyday by Don Mclean.

EYE OPENER
Notice again an eye scene. It usually happens at or near the beginning of an episode and usually involves the eye being shut and then opening. They say the eyes are the lamp to the soul. Sometimes people read other people by looking at their eyes. For example take the comment made by Mary Steenburgen in the 1979 movie Time After Time when she says that man was crazy I could see it in his eyes. Referring to Jack the Ripper. We actually get a rare double eye opener in this one since the first one was just a dream.

THINGS TO WATCH FOR
The poster of Geronimo Jackson on the locker door when Locke is rescued from the locker. Geronimo Jackson was found in music collection in the hatch. You can also see him on a shirt worn by an undercover cop that Locke invited to his commune in a previous episode.
The drawing of the smokey. When Locke was a boy he made a drawing that looks a lot like the smokey monster. The drawing also reminds me of the box of Pandorra. When the box was opened evil got out. A box has also been referred to by Ben. Is this the same box in the drawing of Locke? One gets the feeling that smokey is not man made.
When Locke says dont tell me what I cant do. The famous quote was first seen in the episode Walkabout when the tour guide told him he could not come with them.
Mister Alpert. He sure ages well! He looks the same age in 2004 as he did when Locke was just a boy. Time travel? An immortality drug? Same goes for the orderly. The orderly was actually an employee of Mister Widmore and was seen giving orders to Naomi before her boat left for the island. He gives Locke the idea of the Walkabout and somehow he knows what Locke will do with this information. He also knows he will meet Locke again and Locke will owe him one.
What was that thing on the arm of Keamy? I think it was a bomb. If the heart of Keamy stops beating it is set to go off.
The comic book that says hidden land on it. The island would certainly qualify as hidden land.
Hugo dreaming about molomars.
Locke has a sister named Melissa. Note though that she is not a blood relative.
The phone of Omar picking up a morse code signal. This is the beach asking about the doctor as we saw in the episode of last week when they found his body. Strange things are afoot in the space-time continuum. The signal from the beach seems to travel into the past.

LOCKE HOLDS THE KEY
When Locke, Hurley and Ben visit the graves of the DHARMA people, Locke mentions that there may have been one hundred of them. But in a previous episode Ben has made a comment that there were about forty of them. We also learn in this episode that the decision to kill DHARMA was not the decision of Ben but came from higher up. Also we learn that Ben was chosen to be the defender of the island by Jacob. Ben used to have dreams and Jacob would talk to him but now the island has chosen Locke. This is why the last time Locke was at the cabin Jacob said to him help me. This means the island, ergo Jacob, is asking Locke to become the new island defender or his chosen one if you will. Locke has a destiny for this which apparently goes all the way back to his birth. You can see mister Alpert in the hospital when Locke is born. Also Horace tells Locke that Jacob has been waiting for him for a long time.
How did he know Locke was special? This may have something to do with the way Locke miraculous fought off all these infections as a new born premie or because Jacob predestined Locke from birth. But later apparently Locke was not living up to expectations as Mister Alpert did not take Locke to his school. If there really was a school. Alpert claims to run a school for children who are extremely special. In any event we know he is involved with the island. The school may be a ruse. Note that Locke is playing backgammon. We also saw Locke playing this game with Walt in the pilot episode. Locke also knew the history of backgammon which indicates he is probably an avid player. Hurley is also.
Mister Alpert presents several objects to Locke which he then asks which are already his. The objects are a compass, baseball mitt, Book of Laws, comic book, knife and vial of sand. The decision of Locke to choose the knife may show the tendency of Locke for survivalist living such as experienced in a Walkabout. Where Alpert for some reason may have hoped that Locke would be more science oriented. You can see that guidance counselor telling Locke that he is scientist material, and he is urged on by Mister Alpert who invites Locke to their science camp. Note that the company of Alpert is in Portland. Recall the episode Not in Portland and the company Juliet went to. But Locke rebels against this because he thinks it makes him a nerd. Has anyone seen the Big Bang Theory on CBS? Hmmmmm? Note how emphatic John is when he says he is not a scientist. As we all know, Jack is the man of science while Locke is the man of faith. There was even an episode called Man of Science Man of Faith. What object did Alpert think John was supposed to choose? It should be noted that Locke has stated in a previous episode that he has no need for compasses on the island and in fact gave his compass away. This may be an indication that the compass was the wrong choice. Also the mitt is a sports object and since Alpert wanted Locke more science oriented and not sports oriented this would seem to be the wrong object. The scene with the guidance counselor bears this out. The sand is found on the island and could represent the island. This may have been the object Alpert hoped Locke would choose.
Locke says that he likes boxing meaning the sport. Actually where he ends up is in a box company where they do a different kind of boxing eh?

YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE CRAZY TO SEE THAT
Hurley makes an interesting comment when he says that the reason why Ben, Locke and he can see the cabin is because they are the craziest. Locke says that the ability to see the cabin makes Hurley special. Remember there was an episode called special and it was about Walt. I have always thought that special meant psychic ability. Hurley gives a new idea by implying that special also means at least a little crazy. It makes you think that whatever makes you crazy also imparts a psychic gift to you.

CLAIRE AND CHRISTIAN
Is Claire dead? If she was alive then she would never give up her baby so I think she is gone. Christian says that the baby is right where it is supposed to be. At the moment it is away from its mother. Would this not contradict what the psychic said when he told Claire that the baby must be raised by her and not by another? What gives?

THE GHOST OF THE FATHER OF JACK
In a flashforward scene we see that Jack has a prescription written by his father whom we know to be dead. We think Jack may have forged it but now it is certainly possible that the ghost of the father of Jack could have indeed written him the prescription.

DARMA DEAD
Ben states that he was not the leader when the DHARMA INITIATIVE was killed. Who was it then? Mister Alpert?

WHERS BENDO?
What is the secondary protocol that Keamy gets from the safe? It tells where Ben is going. Is it to the temple or the cabin or someplace else?

A MOVER AND A SHAKER
Even if Locke did move the island, the helicopter is already there so they would still have to deal with Keamy. Keamy however is running out of men. This will make it slightly easier for the LOSTaways to fight back, but Keamy mentioned torching the island. This most likely refers to some major weapon used against the island to kill all the people on it. I would think gas would be the best choice because Widmore wants the people dead not the island destroyed.

CARS
We have now seen at least three people get run over by a car\bus in the series. They are:

Emily in this episode
Michael gets hit by a car
Juliet wishes a man would get hit by and guess what he does!

WILD TANGENT
Cabin Fever was also a 2003 movie about people who contract a flesh eating virus while at a cabin in the woods starring Rider Strong and Jordan Ladd.


217 posted on 05/12/2008 8:43:04 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Note to McCain: The voters are not united FOR you, they are uniting AGAINST Clinton/Obama)
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To: Lucky9teen

Someplace in Austrailia maybe?? I’m geographically challenged so that’s my best guess.


218 posted on 05/12/2008 8:58:07 AM PDT by girlscout
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To: Lucky9teen
"CARS We have now seen at least three people get run over by a car\bus in the series. They are: Emily in this episode Michael gets hit by a car Juliet wishes a man would get hit by and guess what he does!

also Hurley runs over the bad guys with the VW bus on the beach.

219 posted on 05/12/2008 9:59:24 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Our country sure has some slim pickin's on both sides for 2008!)
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To: Lucky9teen
I read on another "Lost" site that folks were thinking it was LA. They also mention that dark "9" in the sky. Turn that upside down and it becomes "6", of course. (Oceanic 6) This show is almost too deep for TV, I tell you.
220 posted on 05/12/2008 10:09:55 AM PDT by babyfreep
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