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[Lucky9teen]

Sneak Preview

Watch tonight to get a sneak peek at this Thursday's premiere episode of Lost!

LOST RETURNS TONIGHT!!!

Through the Looking Glass (Season 3 Finale Episode)
Wed Jan 30 10/9c
Special High Definition enhanced episode with on-screen facts (clues) and back story. Jack and his fellow castaways begin their efforts to make contact with Naomi's rescue ship.



Lost: Past, Present & Future
Thu Jan 31 9/8c
This episode explores the series in a way that will bring new viewers up to date -- but which current viewers will also find illuminating - in anticipation of the fourth season premiere episode. The special will take an in-depth look at the mysteries of both the island and its inhabitants and recap the secrets that have been revealed, as well as those that remain unanswered.

The Beginning of the End
Thu Jan 31 10/9c
Episode Centric: Hurley
Feeling that their rescue is close at hand, the survivors don't know whether to believe Charlie's final message that the people claiming to liberate them are not who they seem to be. The band of friends, family, enemies and strangers must continue to work together against the cruel weather and harsh terrain if they want to stay alive. But as they have discovered during their 70-plus days on the island, danger and mystery loom behind every corner, and those they thought could be trusted may turn against them. Even heroes have secrets...

Guest List
Guest starring are Mira Furlan as Danielle Rousseau, Sam Anderson as Bernard, L. Scott Caldwell as Rose, Tania Raymonde as Alex, Blake Bashoff as Karl, Marsha Thomason as Naomi, Michael Cudlitz as Mike Walton, Lance Reddick as Matthew Abbadon, Grisel Toledo as orderly, Steven Neumeier as Lewis, Billy Ray Gallion as Randy, Jeremy Davies as Daniel Faraday and John Terry as Christian Shephard.


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[Scotswife]

“Forget about that”

I can’t...I MUST KNOW!

When Mr. Friendly said that to Michael he followed it up with “you have more work to do”

When Locke was laying there in the pit dying from a gunshot wound, Walt appeared and said the same thing - that he had more work to do.

So - I’m guessing the Island has a set work detail assigned to each person and when your chore list is finished - so are you?

[Scotswife]

Walt didn’t die.

Someone else thought Miles was visiting the home of Henry Gale - the black guy who rode a hotair balloon onto the island.

Ben pretended to be Henry at first until the Losties dug up his grave and found his picture ID - revealing him as a black man.

[Gothmog]

Replying to you, but also in general. The reason why Michael and Locke have “more work to do” is because they are in purgatory and they have not earned their way out yet.

To answer another poster the reason why it is wrong for Michael to kill others when others have been killed is because it is about judgment. The others have been allowed to pass along because the determination has been made based on their behavior whether they belong in heaven or hell.

Michael is well on his way to heading toward hell. He makes bad decisons for good reasons (saving his kid, protecting others) but in the end he is making bad decisions.

Just to be clear, I’m not a very religious person, but the theme throughout this show (to me) shows it is very well-based in classic Western Civ ideas about morality and the afterlife.

[dan1123]

Replying to you, but also in general. The reason why Michael and Locke have “more work to do” is because they are in purgatory and they have not earned their way out yet.

The creators of LOST have always denied the purgatory theory and insisted that LOST had the same amount of fantasy as a Crichton novel.

[dan1123]

When Mr. Friendly said that to Michael he followed it up with “you have more work to do”

When Locke was laying there in the pit dying from a gunshot wound, Walt appeared and said the same thing - that he had more work to do.

This probably has to do with the fate and time travel theme. Maybe when they do what thay are fated to do, then they can die. Or maybe they then must die and if the people don't get them, then the smoke monster will.

[carton253]

The tomb stone said 9/22/04 - the date of the crash.

[carton253]

But Billy Pilgram was broken by the events of World War II. So, his “unstuck in time” was a mental illness and not real. At least in my opinion. So, if someone is unstuck in time... could the person be suffereing from a mental illness. Could Hurly just be inventing it in his mind?

[Lucky9teen]

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The LOST Report

My Serious, Logical Thoughts on Meet Kevin Johnson Welcome to Meet Kevin Johnson. TITLE Refers to a line that Tom said in the show when he introduced Michael to his new identity. I KNEW HE WAS GAY Ever since Tom told Kate you are not my type we knew that Tom was gay. But now we finally see the evidence in this episode when we catch Tom indulging with another man. WHO FRAMED ROGER WIDMORE? I first theorized that Charles Widmore was the one who faked the plane crash. Then the captain of the freighter implied that it was Ben who did it. So I thought the issue was settled. Especially when we see that Ben somehow has access to millions of dollars and has obviously traveled all around the world. So who faked the crash? Was it Ben or Charles? I now believe it was Charles. Here is why: 1. Sayid ends up working for Ben. He would not do that unless Ben was on the side of right or each of them had the same enemy. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. Also Sayid has an ability to tell when people are lying and he saw through the initial facade of Ben when he claimed to be Henry Gale. 2. Charles Widmore has the money and resources to do it. As for motive, the motive Ben gives is as good as any: To exploit the island for himself. I foresee him charging admission to the island to exploit the healing properties of the island. He will have to get rid of that monster though. Else we will have another Jurassic park like situation on our hands. Would not want the guests getting killed. 3. When mister Abbingdon confronted Hurley in the institution he knew that there may be other survivors of Oceanic flight 815. Later we see Abbingdon employing Naomi and putting together a team to go to the island. This man works for Charles Widmore. And the really big clue is when he is talking to Naomi and she asks him what do I do if I encounter survivors of flight 815. He tells her there were no survivors of flight 815. This statement only makes sense if Charles Widmore faked the crash and intends to eliminate any survivors that might be found on the island. This agrees well with what Ben said when he said that when the landing party got Ben they were supposed to kill everyone else on the island. It also agrees with what Ben said when he said if you make that call (to the ship) it is the beginning of the end. LIGHT VS DARK The fascinating light versus dark theme only hinted at in past season has now really come to light (no pun intended. Or did I?). Ever since Locke held up two backgammon pieces one light and one dark in the pilot episode, we have seen many allusions to the light versus dark theme including: 1. The light and dark pieces found on two bodies in the cave nicknamed Adam and Eve. 2. The lists of good and bad people. 3. The light and dark eyes of Locke in the dream of Claire. 4. The statement of Ben to Michael that they are the good guys. He also says to Michael in this episode consider yourself one of the good guys. If you have good guys then you have bad guys hence light versus dark theme. The show seems to be hinting that the good guys are those that protect the secret of the island and the bad guys are those who want to exploit the island for their own selfishness. Ben seems concerned about the innocent lives on board the freighter. This is why he tells Michael not yet when he tries to activate the bomb. But Ben says when he goes to war he does what he has to to win. This may refer to his gassing of the DHARMA group. There were children in that group so this would seem as a contradiction to his statement. He may have labeled them casualties of war. someONE will die Hey the previews from last week said SOMEONE will die, but both Rousseau and Karl appear to be dead unless one of them survives. The weapons used did not seem to be bullets and made kind of a whizzing sound through the air. Also you heard no gun shots. They seemed like little pellets maybe. But they could be regular guns with silencers. THE GHOST AND MRS LIBBY Libby appears to Michael twice: Once in the hospital posing as a nurse and again on the boat to warn him not to activate the bomb. Like Scrooge haunted by Jacob Marley Michael is haunted by the woman he killed. Maybe we will also see Ana Lucia as a ghost? It is actually the island appearing to Michael in the form of Libby. How is that possible? I have no idea. But it happens. It has happened before such as when Charlie appeared to Hurley and Yemi appeared to Eko. OTHER OBSERVATIONS Michael goes to Fiji to get on the boat. Fiji is also mentioned in the pilot episode. Fiji must be a somewhat near port of call from the island. The mother of Michael has been alluded to before. Michael spoke to her on the phone at the airport. He asked her to watch Walt for him when he got back. Now in this episode she seems to be looking after him exclusively. If Michael survives and makes it back to the mainland in the flashforwards then we will have an Oceanic Seven The song playing when Michael slams his car is its getting better by Mama Cass. Is this a hint at a turn around for Michael? Like things are going to get better? Mama Cass was also featured in the hatch when Desmond played the song Make your own kind of music. The last name of Michael, Dawson, was also the name of a Titanic survivor in the 1997 classic. Notice the helicopter is missing from the freighter. It was alluded to in the last episode that the helicopter had gone on a mission to the island so this implies that more people from the freighter are now on the island. When Roussea and Karl are shot, it may be from the freighter people. Especially when we see them shooting flying objects off the deck of the ship. I think it unlikely that they would kill Karl and Rousseau especially with the daughter of Ben in such close proximity. Ben said that the bad people from the freighter might use Alex if they knew she was his daughter. That is why Alex says she is the daughter of Ben and raises her hands at the end of the episode. She knows it is the freighter people shooting and that they will not harm her if they know she is the daughter of Ben because Alex would make a nice bargaining chip. Notice the different actor playing Walt because the actor playing Walt before hit a growth spurt. Perhaps in a flashforward episode we will see Malcom David Kelley again. Question: How did the guy on the boat know that Michaels name was not Kevin? Answer: a ghost told him. The code number sequence for the bomb contains no Hurley numbers. It does contain at least two sevens. Remember the episode enter 77 anyone? LOST takes a break until April 24th. See you then. Q Other's thoughts on Meeting Kevin Johnson: Things I Noticed - "Meet Kevin Johnson" by Vozzek69

[kidd]

Good thoughts.

I have several other thoughts:

1. Note that the ONLY people who have been able to get off the island (so far) are those that were far away from the Swan station when it blew up. Hurley, Jack, Kate (and Sawyer) were on the dock. Micheal and Walt were also near the dock. Jin, Sun and Sayid were on the sailboat. The exceptions to this are Sawyer (who may have chosen to stay on the island, or he was the one in the casket) and Aaron (who, being so young, doesn’t have the time travel sickness problem).

2. I’m convinced the Miles is NOT some sort of ghost hunter, rather he was part of an experiment conducted by Daniel Faraday...and he now is able to control his time travel.

[Dajjal]

FYI: "Lost" articles from recent issues of Popular Mechanics.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/search/pm/do/relatedKeyword/?kw=Lost&cat=%2Fblogs%2Fscience%5Fnews%2F

BTW, I really enjoy your threads. I'm a big fan of the show. Can't wait for new eps.

[Lucky9teen]

Lost Spoil-o-Rama (Warning: Major Spoilers Within)
By Kristin Dos Santos
Tue Apr 1, 2:23 PM PDT

As you may know, I just hit up Oahu, Hawaii, for a visit to the Lost set and interviews with some of the cast. So what did I learn?

Well, truth told, I managed to dig up some spoilers that are so crazy, so good, so mind-blowingly out of this world, I'm going to put a big fat disclaimer here before revealing them:

Read only at your own risk, because major, series-defining plot points lie beyond this jump! (Don't say I didn't warn you.) Highlight to see:

• One of the Freighters dies at the hands of Jack.
• There's a whole underground city beneath the island, and that's where the whispers come from.
• In a flashforward, Walt reveals the secrets of the Oceanic Six over the Internet.
• Walt is in the coffin.
• Juliet and Charlotte share a kiss.
• Desmond is not one of the Oceanic Six, but he is off the Island.
• Jin, Sawyer and Locke are alive on the Island in the future.
• Kate is pregnant.
• All of the "meat socks" (background survivors we have not yet met) will die by gassing.
• Juliet kills Claire. And, oh yeah, one more thing:

APRIL FOOLS'!!!

I know. You hate me now. Sorry, but I couldn't resist!

If it's any consolation, here's a (hopefully) worthwhile prize for reading this heaping pile o' lies this far:

At least one of the 10 listed above is 100 percent true. Honest to Darlton.

Ya know...for the longest time, every time I watch a Lost Promo and I see this picture (I even slow-mo it to see if I can see more)

And I can't find a bigger picture dangit

... the reflection in the water, does not look like the reflection of the island behind it...rather, it looks like a city with buildings. So, I wonder if this picture isn't a huge clue and there isn't a city under the island??? Just sayin'....

What do you think? Have you noticed this too? Which one of the "spoilers" above do you think is the real one?

[Lucky9teen]

PING TO POST #191

[babyfreep]

Which one of the "spoilers" above do you think is the real one?

The 4th one for sure. I've always thought that, anyway.

[WhyisaTexasgirlinPA]

You are completely evil.

[luckystarmom]

I hope that Desmond is off the island and reunited with Penny.

[Dajjal]

... the reflection in the water, does not look like the reflection of the island behind it...rather, it looks like a city with buildings. So, I wonder if this picture isn't a huge clue and there isn't a city under the island??? Just sayin'....

Perhaps the Island is one of the passageways to the Hollow Earth -- like the one Admiral Byrd found at the North Pole?

[carton253]

That was great!

I like your tagline. That's the only reason McCain is getting my vote (and he is getting my vote). It's not because I like him, but I detest the other two. For the first time in my life, I am truly voting for the lesser of two evils. It sucks.

[MarkMyWord]

"At least one of the 10 listed above is 100% true"
Please let it be that Juliet and Charlotte share a kiss. Please let it be that!

[MomwithHope]

I was hoping to see some posts about last night’s episode. Interesting! Looks like Ben goes forward in time, we see some sort of baton, could be the time travel device. And we see Sayid’s motive for helping Ben eliminate people. Ben’s creepy smile as he walks away from Sayid says he was behind Nadfia’s killing because he needed Sayi’d help in his way against Widmore.
I am doubtful all but the Oceanic 6 are killed.
Why would Jack and Hurley say they have to go back unless they wanted to save the others.

[girlscout]

What a night! I thought Claire was a goner, but surprise! ... she’s still alive. What’s this “it’s my island .. no, it’s my island” talk between Ben and Widmore? I hope Penny survives Ben’s wrath. I want her and Desmond to be happy together.