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Posted on 01/30/2008 12:53:40 PM PST by Lucky9teen

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To: Lucky9teen

I just found this thread thanks to the new formating. Please add me to the ping list. Great comments!


141 posted on 03/07/2008 3:04:57 PM PST by myprecious
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To: myprecious

You’re on the list! ;)


142 posted on 03/07/2008 3:19:02 PM PST by Lucky9teen (Where are we going? And why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: Lucky9teen
The spy in the freighter is Michael.

Makes PERFECT sense. Thanks!

143 posted on 03/07/2008 3:35:41 PM PST by babyfreep
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To: MarkMyWord

Michael (the black dude with the son) shot Ana Lucia and Libby (survivors from the tail section).

I can’t wait to see how Michael and Sayid interact with each other on the freighter.

Ana Lucia was the one who killed Goodwin when she figured out he was an “Other”.


144 posted on 03/08/2008 10:33:33 AM PST by Scotswife
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To: dan1123

Charles Widmore doesn’t want to turn Craphole Island into a Gillian’s Island resort hotel/Jurassic Park type deal. He’s already got more money thank Scrooge McDuck.


145 posted on 03/09/2008 1:27:12 AM PST by goodolemr
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To: goodolemr
Addicted to Lost?
146 posted on 03/11/2008 10:40:40 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Where are we going? And why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: Lucky9teen

So, where is everybody tonight?


147 posted on 03/13/2008 6:06:52 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: myprecious

I’m here, good episode. What’s with Jin, did her father somehow separate them and convince each that the other was dead??. Or was Jin at the hospital a flashback to when he was only married 2 months to Sun? It could be either I suppose. So if Sun is the last of the six they are Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sun, Aaron and Sayid?? Can’t wait til next week.


148 posted on 03/13/2008 7:11:14 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Our country sure has some slim pickin's on both sides for 2008!)
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To: MomwithHope
I think that the Jin at the hospital was a flashback to the "old days". He was delivering a gift on behalf of Sun's father to a powerful politician that could help the company.

But I am not convinced that he is "dead" in the flashforward. Only the Ocean 6 are considered survivors, anyone not counted among the six would be dead to the rest of the world. I think Jin stayed behind for the same unknown reason all the others did. He said he would do anything to keep Sun and the baby safe. I think the gravestone would be ceremonial to cover for his remaining on the island.

149 posted on 03/13/2008 7:46:33 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: myprecious
So, where is everybody tonight?

Well - here it is the next morning and I'm still stuned.

150 posted on 03/14/2008 3:04:10 AM PDT by Lil'freeper (Don't taze me, bro!)
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To: myprecious

I like that thought. Why would Hurley take her to the cemetary though unless Sun was being watched all the time, there was that guy outside her hospital room. If her father thought Jin was dead he might still have a bodyguard for her since she was now so famous.
So do you think the Hurley stuff was before or after Jack saw him in the looney bin?? I think it would be before because Aaron was much older (maybe 2) and Sun was 3 weeks from the middle of the trimester so the birth was about 4 months later. The editing on that final sequence was awesome!


151 posted on 03/14/2008 5:25:21 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Our country sure has some slim pickin's on both sides for 2008!)
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To: Lucky9teen

Hey! Where is the LOST report for Ji Yeon?? I’ve been waiting for it like forever. :o)


152 posted on 03/15/2008 11:23:15 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: ChocChipCookie; Lucky9teen; All
Did anyone notice the date on Jin's tombstone? It was 11/22/02 (I think) and yet on the boat, Syad said it was 12/24/02.

Thoughts?
153 posted on 03/17/2008 8:10:28 AM PDT by MarkMyWord
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To: MarkMyWord
Ya'll have to forgive me for the late ping...I was out sick last week with that nasty cold!

Anyway...here it is.......THE LOST REPORT


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My Serious, Logical Thoughts on Ji Yeon

Welcome to JI YEON

TITLE
Refers to the daughter of Sun and Jin.

SPY VERSUS SPY
As I predicted, the spy on the boat is Michael. I knew it all along but it is nice to be vindicated. Figuring things out on LOST is never easy.

THE PLAN WITH THE PLANE
The big shocker in this episode is that we find out that Ben is the one who staged the fake airplane crash. I also predicted this, but I did not think it was Ben who did it. This means that Ben has overwhelming resources including cash and international influence. Do his people know this? Why would a man this wealthy choose to live on this island? Since Ben was an outsider coming to the group he now commands how did he get all his money and how did he get to be leader? Mister Alpert was a member long before Ben. Would it not have been more logical to make him leader? And how does anyone accumulate all that money living on that island? Did he acquire the money from an organization perhaps when he became leader of THE OTHERS? This would imply that THE OTHERS are backed by some kind of international organization who works behind the scenes. We do know that there are people outside the island who know that the island exists. Proof of this comes from the fact that food rations were dropped to the hatch from someone. Charles Widmore also knows about the island. He could have learned that from the group that dropped the food. The remnants of DHARMA perhaps? The freighter people obviously know about DHARMA and what Ben did to them.
This also gives us a clue as to why Ben is being blackmailed for millions of dollars. Of course now that Locke has let Ben go free that plan will not work.

WHAT IS ON TV
Just before Sun calls the ambulance the TV program she was watching featured a man with a pony tail and a blonde woman. The man was holding a briefcase that looked like it had a lot of money in it. One cannot help but think of Sawyer and Locke who have had their own dealings with briefcases filled with money. A case was also featured in the episode Whatever the Case May Be but did not contain money.

THE GIRL GETS AROUND
When Sun tells Jin that her affair had been a long time ago that does not seem quite true. If it was so long ago then why did Sun doubt if the baby belonged to Jin? Would she not have known?

BODY COUNT
The death toll keeps rising. At least four members of the freighter crew are now dead: Naomi, George, the friend of George in the boat, and Regina. And honorable mention goes to whoevers blood that is on the wall of the room of Sayid and Desmond. This does not count the members of the first helicopter crew that brought Naomi whose fate is unknown. This island is a very dangerous place to be around. People die. The explanation for the death of Regina is cabin fever due to the proximity of the island. But if the island causes this then why are the people on the island not affected? They have been on the island longer than the freighter people have been near the island. One theory is that the cabin fever effect is only effective just outside the island but not on it. Or some people are immune. Danielle mentioned some kind of sickness that affected her crew and she had to kill them. Was this crew also affected by the same disorder that Regina was? Or were they like Desmond quantum leapers? The book that Regina is reading when Lapidus comes by with the grub is called The Survivors of the Chancellor by Jules Verne. She is reading the book upside down because she is suffering cabin fever. The book tells the story of a ship lost at sea. At the beginning of its voyage, the Chancellor carried eight passengers and twenty crew members. By the end, only eleven people (five passengers and six crew) remained alive. This does not forbode well for the freighter people. Of course we cannot mention body count without mentioning the death of Jin. I have never seen a show that offed so many regular characters. And personally I think I have had enough. To the producers of the show if you are reading: Please stop with the deaths. Thank you.
The death of Jin could have occurred on the island just before they left or after they got back. My money is on before they left. But was Jin considered part of the Oceanic six? No. The Oceanic six consists of six living people and Sun is one of them. During the testimony of Jack at the trial of Kate Jack testifies that originally eight people survived the crash and two of them died. One theory is that the Oceanic six came back with two bodies of which Jin was one. But who is the other? Someone else is going to die. But we know of over 40 people still alive from the plane plus Juliet and Desmond. What of their fates? On the boat with Jin, Bernard tells Jin about how Rose cannot leave the island because the island is healing her sickness. So those two have a good explanation as to why they would remain behind. The group that joined Locke of course did not want to be rescued and so most of them of course would have been left behind. Notice Hurley is the one exception. He is one of the six that leave. That means that sometime in the near future either Hurley will leave the group of Locke and get rescued or he will be forced to leave the island. The list of the Oceanic six is now complete:

Jack
Kate
Hurley
Aaron
Sun
Sayid

Some of you may not count Aaron but he was on the plane and should count as one of the six in my opinion. Anyone else got any thoughts on this? For obvious reasons Michael and Walt are not on the list though I believe that they may also be alive out there somewhere living under different names. This would make it the Oceanic eight and eight is a Hurley number! The previews said somebody would die next week. Look for this to be one of the two dead bodies the Oceanic six will bring back with them.

KARMA CHAMELEON
On the boat Bernard tells Jin about Karma. That we make decisions some good and some bad. This again underlies a central theme of LOST which is fate. Charlie once had the word fate written on the bands around his fingers. One time in the caves Sun says do you think it is punishing us? When asked what, she answers fate. This may be a reference to her own bad choices made in the past which have now come back to haunt her. Another way to say it is what goes around comes around. There is even a biblical reference to this idea when the bible teaches you reap what you sow.

QUANTUM LEAP
One way to end this series is for someone to travel back in time to the day of the crash go to the airport and decide whether or not to stop the flight. It sure would be a great way to stop all the deaths by stopping them before they happened. Then we could have Boone, Shannon, Charlie, Eko, Ana, Libby, Joanna, Scott and everyone else back. Niki and Paulo can stay dead though.

WIDMORE TOURS
Hi, are you planning your next vacation? Are you tired of vacations that do not challenge you? Are you tired of those liesure vacations like Hawaii where all you do is lay around and have a good time? Tired of not risking your life? Then come to Widmore tours! Now with blood free guest rooms! (still working on the roaches). Let Widmore take you to places you would not dare go alone. Our crew will be there to help you when they are not throwing themselves overboard or locking you in a room. And you will love the food! Canned lima beans every night! Some guests will even be taken out in a lifeboat and get to travel through time! Those that survive will have some story to tell. Widmore Tours - where half of you come back!

ALL GOOD THINGS ...
Ok, you have heard how I would like to end the series. On a feel good happy note where nobody dies and life is wonderful. How would you like to see the series end?

154 posted on 03/17/2008 10:36:02 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Where are we going? And why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: acad1228; Anitius Severinus Boethius; Anti-MSM; babyfreep; BallyBill; big'ol_freeper; ...

Ping to #153


155 posted on 03/17/2008 11:00:01 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Where are we going? And why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: Lucky9teen

Ok, my head still isn’t very clear yet....

That would be ping to #154...dang it all... ;)


156 posted on 03/17/2008 11:00:47 AM PDT by Lucky9teen (Where are we going? And why are we in this handbasket?)
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To: Lucky9teen

Thanks for posting that summary. I email those to my mom and we both enjoy reading them.


157 posted on 03/17/2008 11:32:37 AM PDT by ChocChipCookie (Homeschool like your kids' lives depend on it.)
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To: MarkMyWord

It looks like 9-22-2004 to me. The plane crashed on September 22nd (I assume 2004 ... I forget). Sounds like they are claiming he died in the crash.

158 posted on 03/17/2008 1:04:39 PM PDT by girlscout
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To: girlscout

I was hoping someone did a screen capture of the headstone! I have a feeling the headstone is ceremonial. Can we be sure Sayid is one of the 6??? Yes he is off the island but so is Ben, maybe they left another way.


159 posted on 03/17/2008 1:43:13 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Our country sure has some slim pickin's on both sides for 2008!)
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To: MomwithHope

The more we watch the more questions we end up with, and no, I can’t be sure about anything with this show. ;-)


160 posted on 03/17/2008 2:09:57 PM PDT by girlscout
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