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Police: Zoo survivor told of standing on railing and yelling at tiger
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | January 17, 2008 | Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 01/17/2008 7:08:12 PM PST by yorkie

One of the two survivors of the San Francisco Zoo tiger attack that left a 17-year-old fatally mauled told the victim's father that the three had yelled and waved at the animal while standing atop the railing of the tiger's enclosure, police said in court documents filed Thursday.

Paul Dhaliwal, 19, denied throwing anything into the enclosure or otherwise antagonizing the animal, according to an account contained in police investigators' request for a search warrant in connection with the Christmas Day attack that killed Carlos Sousa Jr. of San Jose.

Police armed with the warrant and seeking evidence that the men had taunted the tiger searched the 2002 BMW belonging to Dhaliwal's 23-year-old brother, Kulbir, on Wednesday. They also reviewed the brothers' cell phones for any photos they might have taken before the tiger attacked.

Police said they had recovered messages and images, but apparently nothing incriminating in connection with the tiger attack. Investigators seized a small amount of marijuana as well as a partially filled bottle of Grey Goose vodka from the car, according to the inventory that police submitted from the search.

They also found a kit commonly used to defeat drug testing, which included a vial of unisex synthetic urine, police said. Paul Dhaliwal was on probation stemming from a drunken driving incident and crash that occurred before the attack.

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To: org.whodat

There isn’t a fence rail - it is chain link and has little pointy pieces of wire.


81 posted on 01/17/2008 8:43:34 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Rte66

It does seem odd that people around here are so quick to believe anything bad about the victims, especially when nearly everything reported about them has been untrue.

(dangling foot, unlocking the cage, putting a board down to aid tiger’s escape, putting a picnic table into the moat, their shoe in the moat, slingshots, not cooperating with police).


82 posted on 01/17/2008 8:44:06 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

Apparently you missed my point completely. Good luck in your encounters with wildlife in the completely “safe world” you live in.


83 posted on 01/17/2008 8:46:46 PM PST by Inyo-Mono (If you don't want people to get your goat, don't tell them where it's tied.)
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To: Rte66
"One of the two survivors [snip] told the victim's father that the three had yelled and waved at the animal while standing atop the railing of the tiger's enclosure, police said in court documents filed Thursday."

Yep. And, now it is recorded in court documents.

I have read (help me out here, somebody), that if it is proven in court that these boys taunted the tiger, they will not be eligible to receive a settlement.

84 posted on 01/17/2008 8:46:47 PM PST by yorkie
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To: Mr. Brightside

Yes. You’re right of course. Too bad. I do hope the two punks who survived enjoy their brief notoriety and try the same stunt again with more satisfactory results.


85 posted on 01/17/2008 8:47:32 PM PST by Postman
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To: Mr. Brightside
The zoo/city/management company will pay millions and millions, regardless of what you or I propose.

Not if I'm on the jury.

86 posted on 01/17/2008 8:48:00 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: RDTF
Sorry but taunting a tiger should just get your a$$ thrown out, not killed.

They can write "should have" on the kids tombstone. Actions have consequences. Assumptions are a poor basis for actions.

87 posted on 01/17/2008 8:49:58 PM PST by TigersEye (Crusty is as Crusty does.)
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To: Rte66
Oh, yeah, I’m sure the dead boy’s father would make that up, seeing as how it even indicts his own son.

I don't know about the father, but I know the cop would do and say whatever he need to get his bogus search warrant. As I said I don't know what the father said are what the kid said, all that we have is the allegation made by the cop.

88 posted on 01/17/2008 8:51:28 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Rte66
It matters that they climbed over the public fence and entered the tiger’s territory to do it.

This account states that the victims "waved at the animal while standing atop the railing." It does not say they went over the railing.

What account are you referencing?

89 posted on 01/17/2008 8:53:20 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside
"It does seem odd that people around here are so quick to believe anything bad about the victims, especially when nearly everything reported about them has been untrue."

FTA: "They also found a kit commonly used to defeat drug testing, which included a vial of unisex synthetic urine, police said. Paul Dhaliwal was on probation stemming from a drunken driving incident and crash that occurred before the attack".

These 'boys' were found to have marijuana in their systems, alcohol in their systems, scamming the system regarding drug usage with fake urine, drunk driving conviction...........yup. Just good ol' boys, eh? Well would you want this kind of scum dating YOUR daughter?

Why don't we read anything good about them? Because no one has found anything good to print. Please post links proving that "nearly everything reported about them has been untrue."

90 posted on 01/17/2008 8:57:19 PM PST by yorkie
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To: yorkie
(dangling foot, unlocking the cage, putting a board down to aid tiger’s escape, putting a picnic table into the moat, their shoe in the moat, slingshots, not cooperating with police).

All of these reports were untrue. Search for yourself.

91 posted on 01/17/2008 8:59:34 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Mr. Brightside

I fear we are going to be hearing alot more of these attack between animals and humans around the world. It seems we have a sick passion for animal violence.

Dog Violence in the USA and feeding of live animals in Zoos overseas. Its only a matter before some of these animals bites the hand that feeds them.

Cleaner version than some I have seen but still not for the faint of heart. Listen to the young kids.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOjMi9Obs8o


92 posted on 01/17/2008 9:01:33 PM PST by Bailee
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To: yorkie

And for the record, I have already stated that the victims should have been arrested on drug and alcohol charges.

But my guess is that the city does not want to antagonize the brothers right before a civil trial by arresting them on lesser charges.


93 posted on 01/17/2008 9:02:21 PM PST by Mr. Brightside
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To: Rte66

OK, we all can see the chain link fence does not exist in post #46. All you have is black metal and some stands that contains information about the animals. So you next fabrication is?


94 posted on 01/17/2008 9:03:20 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: Mr. Brightside

I never saw most of those references, so haven’t used them in forming my opinion. The shoe and the now-debunked slingshot reference were all I heard about - and the non-cooperation by the Dhaliwals is true.


95 posted on 01/17/2008 9:03:25 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Mr. Brightside
Oh, I'm sorry. I was posting to your quote: "nearly everything reported about them has been untrue."
96 posted on 01/17/2008 9:03:34 PM PST by yorkie
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To: org.whodat

Uh-huh - something so easily thrown out just by having the judge ask the victim’s father. Sure.


97 posted on 01/17/2008 9:05:04 PM PST by Rte66
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To: org.whodat

You know.

I believe there is a snake in the woodpile.

Do you know what I mean?


98 posted on 01/17/2008 9:05:28 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: yorkie

No, they’ll still get an award, just less than the dead boy’s family. There will be arguments for aggravating and mitigating factors in negotiating the amount.

It’s going to be a split between the zoo and the victims of some percentage to be determined by the jury, if it gets that far without a private settlement.


99 posted on 01/17/2008 9:08:45 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Mr. Brightside

They had to have gone over the fence to get to the railing on the wall of the moat.


100 posted on 01/17/2008 9:10:38 PM PST by Rte66
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