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Police: Zoo survivor told of standing on railing and yelling at tiger
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | January 17, 2008 | Jaxon Van Derbeken

Posted on 01/17/2008 7:08:12 PM PST by yorkie

One of the two survivors of the San Francisco Zoo tiger attack that left a 17-year-old fatally mauled told the victim's father that the three had yelled and waved at the animal while standing atop the railing of the tiger's enclosure, police said in court documents filed Thursday.

Paul Dhaliwal, 19, denied throwing anything into the enclosure or otherwise antagonizing the animal, according to an account contained in police investigators' request for a search warrant in connection with the Christmas Day attack that killed Carlos Sousa Jr. of San Jose.

Police armed with the warrant and seeking evidence that the men had taunted the tiger searched the 2002 BMW belonging to Dhaliwal's 23-year-old brother, Kulbir, on Wednesday. They also reviewed the brothers' cell phones for any photos they might have taken before the tiger attacked.

Police said they had recovered messages and images, but apparently nothing incriminating in connection with the tiger attack. Investigators seized a small amount of marijuana as well as a partially filled bottle of Grey Goose vodka from the car, according to the inventory that police submitted from the search.

They also found a kit commonly used to defeat drug testing, which included a vial of unisex synthetic urine, police said. Paul Dhaliwal was on probation stemming from a drunken driving incident and crash that occurred before the attack.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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To: TigersEye
well

Either filling it or emptying it, I say this as I am sitting here emptying my can of beer. It stands there only half empty.

121 posted on 01/17/2008 9:46:30 PM PST by going hot (Happiness is a momma deuce)
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To: Rte66
It is a few feet, from the metal black fence to the moat, then you have twenty are thirty feet of payment to the chain link fence. The visitors are between the short metal fence and the tall chain link fence.
122 posted on 01/17/2008 9:49:41 PM PST by org.whodat (What's the difference between a Democrat and a republican????)
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To: pandoraou812

I was shaking my head at you and giving huge sighs at your posting first. Such drama!


123 posted on 01/17/2008 9:51:48 PM PST by Post Toasties (It's not a smear if it's true.)
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To: RDTF
Sorry but taunting a tiger should just get your a$$ thrown out, not killed.

The zoo was not dispensing justice.

Neither the zoo nor any other organization, nor any police or teacher or parent or any other entity on this planet can protect us from our own actions. That is the ultimate 'law'.

Teenagers don't deserve to die in auto accidents either, but they will continue to do so unabated (leading cause of death for teenagers).

We cannot make this world safe for anyone, least of all for those who have impaired judgement.

124 posted on 01/17/2008 9:52:29 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: yorkie
Earlier this month, the younger Sousa's mother, Marilza Sousa, said in an interview that Paul Dhaliwal had told her, "We didn't do nothing. We were just normal kids in the zoo."

If they "didn't do nothing", what did they do?

She added, "That's what happened - just dancing, talking, laughing like normal kids."

Just smoking dope, drinking, and DUI "like normal kids."

125 posted on 01/17/2008 9:57:41 PM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: Post Toasties
Were you really, I do it all the time too! These tiger threads can bring out many sighs & drama.

I never said the zoo wasn't at fault . I do find lots of fault with any zoo that doesn't secure its animals from escaping & from people who might abuse or even try to get into the animal's enclosure. My main problem is people shouldn't go to the zoo & act like morons . I've said it from the 1st thread & I stand by it. A zoo should be a safe place for people to go admire animals & the animals be safe from people. If it takes a video camera to make sure people aren't taunting or trying to get into the animal's cages then put them up. It will show zoo keepers which animals try to get out too. Do what needs to be done to make it safe for the animals & the people or close it down until it is safe. Have a nice night. ~Pandora~

126 posted on 01/17/2008 10:05:01 PM PST by pandoraou812 (Don't taunt the animal's at the zoo or they may bite YOU!)
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To: Razz Barry
Yep - and they weren't doing anything wrong with what the police found in their car; a kit used to defeat drug testing, which included a vial of unisex synthetic urine
127 posted on 01/17/2008 10:06:09 PM PST by yorkie
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To: Blood of Tyrants

no, they didn’t deserve this....they were stupid, irrational, impulsive....like many young men.....


128 posted on 01/17/2008 10:26:31 PM PST by cherry
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To: yorkie
unisex synthetic urine

Wow I never heard of that stuff. Hmmm maybe they wanted tiger urine? I am just kidding now...

129 posted on 01/17/2008 10:26:58 PM PST by pandoraou812 (Don't taunt the animal's at the zoo or they may bite YOU!)
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To: Mr. Brightside

Are you a friggen’ lawyer cause you sure talk like one!

Apparently these idiots have no responsibility according to you. You must be a trial lawyer.


130 posted on 01/17/2008 10:33:18 PM PST by packrat35 (Politicians would be less worthless if they were edible, or useable for packing wheel bearings.)
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To: yorkie

If I were on a jury, and learned that the victims actually entered the tiger’s enclosure, I am not sure I would consider the zoo to be very liable.


131 posted on 01/17/2008 10:36:22 PM PST by Marie2 (I used to be disgusted. . .now I try to be amused.)
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To: Rte66

If you look at the photo in post 46, you can see that there are informational plaques on the low railing. That’s where people stand and look at the animals—just the other side of that railing. There was no chain link fence between visitors and the railing.


132 posted on 01/17/2008 11:18:56 PM PST by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

Sorry, but my monitor is old and the contrast is not good on darker colors, so I don’t see this railing or 2nd fence. How tall is it? Everything I read before said it was a 6-foot fence.

If they stood on top that, instead of the railing on the top of the moat wall, as I understood it, they still, in football terms “crossed the plane of the playing field” - with feet, arms, hands, noses, whatever body parts stuck out past the fence.

That’s the tiger’s “property” and they had no business being there.


133 posted on 01/17/2008 11:37:07 PM PST by Rte66
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To: Razz Barry

So normal kids “dance” at the zoo? Perhaps, if they’re high and drunk.
Didn’t know there were so many euphemisms for taunting, Mrs. Sousa.


134 posted on 01/17/2008 11:47:59 PM PST by GnuHere
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To: GnuHere
I saw a little boy dance at the mall the other day. He had to go to the rest room.

IMHO, it's sad what we're expected to accept as "normal".

135 posted on 01/18/2008 1:07:18 AM PST by Razz Barry (Round'em up, send'em home.)
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To: yorkie
fyi:

Police: Tiger attack victim was drinking, admitted taunting

..."As a result of this investigation, (police believe) that the tiger may have been taunted/agitated by its eventual victims," according to Inspector Valerie Matthews, who prepared the affidavit. Police believe that "this factor contributed to the tiger escaping from its enclosure and attacking its victims," she said.

Sousa's father, Carlos Sousa Sr., said Dhaliwal told him the three stood on a 3-foot-tall metal railing a few feet from the edge of the tiger moat. "When they got down they heard a noise in the bushes, and the tiger was jumping out of the bushes on him (Paul Dhaliwal)," the documents said. Police found a partial shoe print that matched Paul Dhaliwal's on top of the railing, Matthews said in the documents. Video Watch how a victim's desperate 911 call was handled » The papers said Paul Dhaliwal told Sousa that no one was dangling his legs over the enclosure. Authorities believe the tiger leaped or climbed out of the enclosure, which had a wall 4 feet shorter than the recommended minimum.


136 posted on 01/18/2008 3:49:31 AM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: Razz Barry
I saw a little boy dance at the mall the other day. He had to go to the rest room.

I hope it wasn't a tap dance ;>) No telling what type of scum that would attract.(Sorry. I couldn't resist.)

137 posted on 01/18/2008 3:56:35 AM PST by LRS (It's time to put Hillary on the 3:10 to Yuma...)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

funny, but these days your dad would go to jail for that.


138 posted on 01/18/2008 3:58:46 AM PST by beebuster2000 (choice is not not peace or war, but small war now, or big war later masquerading as peace now.)
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To: Mr. Brightside
So is the zoos policy is only to secure "non-agitated" animals?

Yes. And to keep them restrained from "normal" people acting under "normal" circumstances at "normal" times of the day.

139 posted on 01/18/2008 4:12:02 AM PST by nicmarlo (I hereby declare my support for Duncan Hunter. 1/10/08; late to the party, but I have arrived!)
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To: nicmarlo

I am glad you don’t build the prisons.

Would you only build wall strong enough to keep “non-agitated” inmates inside?


140 posted on 01/18/2008 4:27:08 AM PST by Mr. Brightside
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