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Trail of blood apparently led escaped tiger to victims
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | Dec 27, 2007 | Kevin Fagen, Jaxon Van Derbeken, Steve Rubenstein, Cecila Vega

Posted on 12/27/2007 6:35:20 AM PST by fignewton

San Francisco police are investigating the possibility that one of the victims in the fatal tiger mauling on Christmas Day climbed over a waist-high fence and then dangled a leg or other body part over the edge of a moat that kept the big cat away from the public, sources close to the investigation said Wednesday.

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TOPICS: Local News; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: darwinawards; holdmuhbeer; sf; tiger; zoo
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To: LIConFem

Actually, it does not come as a shock to me. From what I have read and heard, the cat was being taunted. And it is a shame a beautiful cat has to be put down because it decided it was going to get the last laugh.


81 posted on 12/27/2007 8:11:47 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: redstateconfidential
Wrong! If they tormented the cat, they would treat people the same,no respect for anything.If they climbed the fence, or urged someone else, I don’t need them on my planet.The media wants us to feel soooorrry for them, if they instigated this at 17, 20 or 21 years old, they need to get out of the gene pool.I wasn’t that damnably stupid at that age, were or are you? Maybe you think its funny or okay to hurt or torture a caged animal. Or normal.I don’t.I call shenanigans! Visiting a zoo is a privilege, not a right to torment animals.The evidence is now coming in, it doesn’t look good for their lawsuit, and not wanting to give their name to the cops, are there warrants or parole violations out there?

I don't feel sorry for the alleged hulligans. I don't think its funny when animals are tortured (Mike Vick should have gotten 5-10 years). However, I draw the line when an idiot on this forum espouses that the youths should have been shot. your "out of the gene pool" comment makes me wonder about you as well. As a parent, I'd hate to think that an indiscretion would cost someone's son his life. Its not like the kid raped a girl, knocked over a bank, or murdered someone. From all indications, he was teasing a tiger. Dumb - yes. Should it result in a death sentence - no.

82 posted on 12/27/2007 8:12:04 AM PST by Go Gordon (The short fortune teller who escaped from prison was a small medium at large.)
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To: Go Gordon

Wonder all you want,I already made my mind up about your comments.You feel sympathy for them, I feel sorry for a animal that was provoked by your beloved “hooligans”.As the commercial used to say “past performance is indicative of future results”.Riiighhhttt, they had such bright futures ahead of them,..now they can move on to the elderly and children in the neighborhood. Once their scars are healed nicely.


83 posted on 12/27/2007 8:17:11 AM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: muawiyah
At the same time they have to strategize about how to get through the herd of big bulls to attack the weak or the young so they can eat.

It's up to human beings to keep our true nature (as food animals for tigers) secret from them. Once they know it's all over and we must destroy them.

Just like Water Buffalo, not all humans are frail and weak. Some are the big bulls that are deadly to the big cats.

Some humans are in control of the cat due to the cat's innate understanding of self-preservation. Some humans are food to the cat due to the cat's innate perception of weakness or illness.

The cat doesn't need to be put down once it comes in contact with a weak or sick human. It needs to be isolated from those humans and controlled by the big bulls.

These weak and sick kids lured the cat out and the cat did what cats do. It killed one weak and sick human and attacked a couple of others. Then a big bull human came and killed the cat.

84 posted on 12/27/2007 8:17:46 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Bigoleelephant

Not all tigers are man eaters. Man eating tigers should not be kept for a zoo.


85 posted on 12/27/2007 8:21:03 AM PST by Shanty Shaker
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To: Fawn

Note to self: never let kids stay at Fawn’s Infestatorium.


86 posted on 12/27/2007 8:23:07 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Cats are not automatons. They are smarter than their game. You cannot ever afford to let a big cat know that you are not their “mother” but instead are just food.


87 posted on 12/27/2007 8:32:45 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: ghost of nixon
For every 100 times a cat stalks game she makes a kill.

when the hunting is easy they'll stalk and kill until they have a larder-load of meat.

In fact, in cool climates and up in the mountains all cats regularly store up food in a tree or burrow. In hot climates they take fresh game up into a tree for "ripening". Meanwhile they go about their business of stalking and hunting.

Then they eat.

It's not like they are mind-numbed glutons.

88 posted on 12/27/2007 8:37:40 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Mr. Brightside

Yes—I already told my 9 year old about the attack, and didn’t follow any of those tips, really—my 9 year old has recently received a ton of scratches across his face from pissing off our family cat, and I let him know that this will be his future fate as a 19 year old punk (the tiger attack and death) if he keeps up his bad habit of teasing animals. . .


89 posted on 12/27/2007 8:43:08 AM PST by olivia3boys
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To: SALChamps03
F%&k the tiger. A person died.

I feel bad for the tiger.

Tigers are an endangered species. Morons are plentiful.

90 posted on 12/27/2007 8:46:24 AM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

And Morons out breed tigers 1000000 to 1.


91 posted on 12/27/2007 8:49:24 AM PST by redstateconfidential (If you are the smartest person in the room,you are hanging out with the wrong people.)
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To: HairOfTheDog
It can still be a shame the tiger was put down

It is most definitely the fault of people that the tiger had to be put down. On that I'm sure we both agree.

92 posted on 12/27/2007 8:52:14 AM PST by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: SALChamps03
F%&k the tiger.

You first...

93 posted on 12/27/2007 8:56:40 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Go Gordon
Some youths make a mistake and pay for it with their lives. Your comment shows you have no class or couth.

And your comment shows you have no sense of humor. Gallows humor, specifically. It is absurd to see people blaming the tiger, which is a born killer and carnivore. If these youths provoked the attack and some else got injured they would now be facing serious charges.

94 posted on 12/27/2007 8:57:42 AM PST by montag813
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To: Go Gordon
Some youths make a mistake and pay for it with their lives.

Some "mistake".

95 posted on 12/27/2007 8:58:27 AM PST by montag813
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To: metmom

I think the zoo has to explain how this happened. But I also think these guys were up to no good. A tiger in a zoo is not to be taunted . If you taunt it you may die if it can get you. Seems pretty simple IMHO. Hope a lesson is learned here.


96 posted on 12/27/2007 8:58:37 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( Its NOT for the good of the children! Its BS along with bending over for Muslim's demands)
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Millions of people probably walked by that enclosure and saw the tiger safely.

The boys were attacked because at least one went over the barrier and they teased the tiger. It was likely able to escape the enclosure before, just didn’t because it was fairly content and the enclosure was the tiger’s territory. The tiger was young, healthy, athletic, and they invaded its territory and made it angry enough to get radical on them.


97 posted on 12/27/2007 8:59:03 AM PST by Judith Anne (I refuse to have a tagline anymore. Nope. Not gonna do it. Won't go there.)
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To: 7thson
why this tiger was not put down a year ago when it nearly tore the arm off a zoo keeper?

Siberian tigers are an endangered species. That might have violated the Endangered Species Act.

98 posted on 12/27/2007 9:01:21 AM PST by reg45
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To: numberonepal
In almost any situation if the animal gets a taste of human blood, it has to be put down.

For animals in the wild I would agree. A tiger or mountain lion or a bear that discovers that humans are tasty and crunchy and good with ketchup is going to continue to be an increasing threat. I wouldn't necessarily think that it must be the same for those in captivity.

99 posted on 12/27/2007 9:02:14 AM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: fignewton
from an earlier incident at same zoo:

October 1988: Tinkerbelle attacks animal health technician Gail Hedberg, who was treating the elephant for an abscess on its cheek. The elephant knocks the technician down and does a headstand on her. Hedberg suffers a crushed pelvis.

100 posted on 12/27/2007 9:05:45 AM PST by beebuster2000 (choice is not not peace or war, but small war now, or big war later masquerading as peace now.)
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