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ANS, with aid and abetting by HKS, really badmouthed her mother and accused her of all sorts of things, when she is/was guilty of what she accused Virgie of

i remember someone saying that at the end of the mommy dearest tape, anna had turned to howie and said, is that enough? or something to that effect.

Have you read anything about a timeframe for the 'kicking out'?? We do know that Daniel ws there for his birthday in late Jan, and also that Daniel's belongings were still at the house and moved into storage over father's day this year by LB and HKS.

it has been reported that LB stated [the police were called?] he gave a statement to the police at the time about Daniel's alleged drug use?

Daniel allegedly told the PI that he had several altercations with howie, there was very bad blood, and that is why he thought he was being followed and was afraid for his and his mother's life. I thought I'd read somewhere that Daniel didn't move to Martino's until Anna left for the Bahamas?

ok, i just saw ‘24 hours’ Anna Nicole for the first time tonite

Moe was actually acting out his part? lololol geesh

ok - Moe said something very important - he said, Anna knew she had an infection !! and said she complained that her whole side of her body was swollen and hurt

If she told Moe, then it stands to reason she would have also told howie and khris, like for instance, when they were disappeared for 3 hours between landing and hotel arrival.

from rita’s book, king eric recounted finding Anna sedated and with a collapsed lung, after being called by howie that Anna wouldn’t go to the hospital (rule number one: no deaths at the Horizons). King said, all he had to do was promise to go with her and stay with her the entire time - just with that, anna allowed him to take her to two different doctors before they finally got to the hospital. It occured to me, that hospitals would be traumatic for Anna - walking back into an environment where her son died. She would need support and hand-holding. So, if Anna wouldn’t go to the hospital in florida, why wasn’t King called by Howie to come persuade her again?

I don't remember that at all. Howard popped into view twice. He was standing by her left side. He said in a rather loud whisper: "Tell them this was left on the tape recording machine" or something very similar and he leaned over a second time and repeated it.

In other words, Anna didn't tell talk to her mother. It was a one way conversation.

What would be nice is for Virgie to have pulled the tape and still have it. Then we could see how well the "scripts" match.