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To: Lizarde

I have agreed with you, even if the only place methadone was detected was in the bile. If it stays around for weeks in the system though, who knows? Maybe that’s why HKS thought all was clear. Maybe the reduction of the methadone is what caused them to over-medicate her with downers.

Here is a list of drugs Perper reports in her peripheral blood:

topamax (both an anti-convulsant and used for people with bipolar d/o), meprobamate (anti-anxiety used for sleep, KE must have found this at the bottom of her medicine bag; no one uses this anymore, except Cubans stuck in Cuba), Robaxin (for muscle spasms, makes you sleepy), Klonopin (anti-anxiety, makes you sleepy unless you have tolerance), Valium (makes you sleepy unless you have tolerance), Ativan (same as previous two), Cipro. TCE, TCA.

Perper goes into a long discussion about the difference between a fatal overdose from repeated doses over a couple of days and overdose from acute ingestion. He reasons that she died from repeated doses over a couple of days, thus not a suicide and insurance money can be collected. And maybe boys and girls that was the whole point?


3,326 posted on 11/15/2007 10:06:17 PM PST by SundayGardener
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To: SundayGardener

no dilaudid?

but but but Howie specifically mentioned dilaudid in his testimony.....why did he even mention it, then?

the only ‘painkiller’ i see on the list is tylenol

are anti-depressants ‘downers’ ? does one get ‘high’ on anti-depressants? does one get ‘high’ on muscle relaxers?

I do know for some antidepressants if you suddenly withdraw it can cause siezures

i do know that muscle relaxers and potassium can affect the electrical rhythms of the heart in wrong doses...

I don’t see a single thing on the list of drugs, in the amounts detected, that would get Anna foobar’d to the gills - strange....:)


3,345 posted on 11/16/2007 4:23:23 AM PST by blueplum
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To: SundayGardener
If she died from repeated doses over a period of days, how is that explained by her getting out of bed, sneaking to wherever it was, gulping it and getting back into bed without Howard even noticing the vibrations of a 170 pound woman.

Think about it. You ring a doorbell. You can hear/feel the vibrations of footsteps but not see the person....and you're OUTSIDE...not a few feet away in the next room.

3,351 posted on 11/16/2007 6:22:28 AM PST by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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