Mark...
And to add..One thing I’ve noticed is that people are willing to forgive and forget the shady dealings of all involved as long as they appear to be going after Stern . I really don’t think anyone in this whole story is credible. I don’t trust the Shelley/Thompson clan. Moe and Taz have changed their stories left and right. Online sleuthing is interesting but with all the lies, mistruths, and contradicting statements do we really know what happened? It’s very frustrating and very sad.
It's just so hard to get info because so much is behind closed doors and we don't have a Freeper in the Bahamas to check records.
Of course one could go to the Harris site. He shows no bias. :-)
Between you and me...I think Larry is in big trouble. He's disappeared into the woodwork.
I agree with you Trisha, no one is clean.
I don’t think people forget for a moment. I think you must mean some ‘other’ boards. Those are more involved in some odd game I don’t understand. It has nothing to do with these deaths. If this case was solved, they would move on to ‘play’ fight a new one.
I’m forever aware that no matter what, the bottom line is two dead bodies. It isn’t logical to say .. look, there’s a thief.. while stepping over two dead bodies is how I look at it. Arguing a ‘thief’ is a moot point to me. Minor by comparison to murder. That is Howard’s game, divert attention. Some feed it, some don’t but that is the style of the fighting boards. Any little thing to fight.
I think that is what makes FReepers so special and different compared to dueling poster sites. They are mostly comprised of immature negatives always looking for trouble. One line nonsense, childish high schoolish games. You don’t see much of that here. Almost everyone here is willing to do homework! You see more research, sharing and a common bond to find the truth in the case.
In my view, Moe, Taz, KE, HKS, Shelly.. all liars. I go from that starting point. I can’t say I’m not glad we got what we did from a few of those liars myself. Pictures don’t lie so you could say I over look how the clown video was obtained for instance. I can’t prove ANS didn’t tell him to take her things. I doubt she did, but that isn’t ‘fact’ just a guess. Either way.. the benefit of seeing that tape for the truth is worth more than the error if it occurred is how I weigh it. Sometimes when dealing with evil on earth, we have to look past a few lesser errors. I know if it was my loved ones killed, I could care less how he got that damn tape! And I bet there isn’t one HONEST person, if it was their loved ones suddenly dead, would care how that tape was obtained either.
I don’t know if we will ever know what happened. I know a thousand eyes looking can’t hurt and maybe, just maybe, God willing, will one day help. I know one thing for sure.. it isn’t about Virgie! Whatever flaws she may have, (we all have them) she wasn’t near the murders and she didn’t push drugs.
I know enough ‘facts’ to be confident that innocence doesn’t live anywhere near those two dead bodies.
online sleuthing...
At least we are able to track and prove their lies. We can glean information from things they have withheld, hold their feet to the fire on the lies they tell, etc. Can we know the whole truth? No, of course not. But we can find pieces to the puzzle. Will it solve two murders, probably not. However, being able to see and document truth vs lies is valuable to me. Beats the old days of nothing but their slippery tongues, or a two minute TV blip.
For those that have the time, why not? If we learn a little along the way (I always do), if someone gets a moments distraction from pain, if friendships grow.. then at least some good comes from it.
“I really don’t think anyone in this whole story is credible.”
I totally agree - so, faced with less-than-credible people, we have to gleen down to those who have nothing to lose (or gain), or those who are willing to risk everything by incriminating themselves.
That’s why, i give Jackie, Shelleys’gBen, and Nygard so much weight -also, as much as I want them to fall to their knees and pray, Moe and Taz
no matter which way one looks at this tragedy, all roads lead back to HKS, KE and lb- i wish reality was different but it isn’t - the fatal prescriptions were all in the name of HKS