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To: blueplum

“don’t forget - she was injected with a.baumannii contaminated needle/syringe on Feb 2...a. baumannii has no reason to be in the Bahamas - it’s rarer than MRSA was 10 years ago, It’s being identified as an “iraq’ virus as it was first noted in battle-wounded returning to British and American military hospitals. imo, it is unlikely that Anna would have contracted it in a bahamian hospital - if she did, the CDC/WHO would have been all over it. IMO MOO”

Where did you find the information about the baumanii contaminated needle? If it was in the autopsy, I didn’t know the significance of it. Please explain if you think that ANS was somehow injected, on purpose, with a rare bacteria? I find this little bit of information rather shocking.


1,108 posted on 10/20/2007 8:56:16 PM PDT by SundayGardener
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To: SundayGardener
thank you for noticing!! I’ve been quietly jumping up and down about a.baumannii for some time

the a.baumannii reference is directly from the investigative report of the autopsy. There was an additional bacterium, p.luteola (see comments on p.luteola below).

the presence of the two exceedingly rare bacterium IMO was the basis for Perper’s query whether ANS used alcohol swabs prior to injecting. The investigative report also speculates whether it was skin colonized, or a contaminated syringe, and notes that neither the injected substance nor the syringe were made ‘available’ to the autopsy team. the team does not rule out the bacterium being injected. “The possibility that a contaminated product was injected into the tissue cannot be ruled out...” (IMO, if it were ‘skin colonization’ then they could have swabbed any part of her body and gotten a positive result.)

I’ve also questioned why Perper said that KE ‘gave’ ANS neosporin’ and what that huge abscess on KE’s face was, that was not there in her initial interviews. ANS didn’t have a ‘cut’, she had the flu, so why the neosporin, unless, KE knew that ANS had an infected buttock and was trying to treat it with a superficial cream?

the dissertation on a.baumannii is here: (page 10, Investigative Report)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2007/0326074report10.html

1,142 posted on 10/21/2007 1:43:23 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: SundayGardener

I don’t see her being injected on purpose.
Perper couldn’t get anything to grow!! It was from a sample taken directly from the left buttock abcess and even with that, nothing in her blood or urine on this bacteria!

IMO it has all the signs of a lab contaminant. Perper tried to say it “could” be because she was on Cypro, however, if you look at the few cypro pills missing that does’t make sense with such a dangerous bacteria to have no trace in her at all.

AND, the cypro wasn’t even prescribed until the day after they claim they gave it to her!! That to me is a huge flag.Perper fell for it but there is no denying.. how in the hell do you give someone Cypro on the 5th you don’t prescribe till the 6th???

Perper has NOTHING to support his hyperbole. Another diversion tactic from KE and HKS.

Perper
A. Microbiology There were several significant microbiologic findings in this case. Cultures of the left buttock abscess isolated Pseudomonas luteola and Acinetobacter baumannii, the latter being a potentially virulent organism. 1 These are not common bacterial contaminant of the skin and Acinetobacter is well-known to cause serious infections. Blood, urine, lung, and CSF cultures, however, failed to grow either of these micro-organisms, though non-pathogenic contaminants (mild to minimal growth) were isolated. This discrepancy can be explained on the grounds that Miss Smith was on an antibiotic (Ciprofloxacin) to which at least one of these bacteria ( Acinetobacter species) were sensitive (note: bacterial cultures taken while a patient is under antibiotic coverage are often negative despite clinically significant infection). It is very possible that perforation of a pre-existent intra-gluteal abscess by another cutaneous injection resulted in the introduction of bacteria into the blood. Alternatively, the introduction of foreign material via cutaneous injection into the buttock served as a nidus for a localized infection that then spread into the blood. The possibility that a contaminated product was injected into the tissues cannot be excluded since the likely substances injected into the buttocks could not be obtained and analyzed. Liberation of bacteria from a deep-seated abscess could also have occurred on the flight from the Bahamas to Florida due to prolonged sitting and/or turbulence during flight. In either event, it seems likely that bacteria from the abscess entered the bloodstream and resulted in significant symptomatology. This was manifested by high fever, chills, and prostration. Two reputable experts in infectious diseases contend that this hypothesis is reasonable. The presence of markedly elevated pro-inflammatory biochemicals (cytokines IL-6 and IL-8, naturally produced by the body) in the serum also strongly supported an acute inflammatory process, such as infection. No endotoxins were detected in the blood; however this assay is usually performed on antemortem specimens. Whether one considers the symptoms noted on her arrival in Florida diagnostic of sepsis or more compatible with the


1,150 posted on 10/21/2007 2:54:59 AM PDT by nature
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To: SundayGardener

http://ibe.sagepub.com/cgi/reprint/15/1/19.pdf

CDC it also occured during Vietnam war.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwR/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5345a1.htm

It is a bacteria, it can and has been found in the Bahamas or anywhere really. Typically in clinical settings. The problem isn’t where is it found but where it attacks those in weaken health and that it is resistant to all treatments of antibiotics that we have. In other words, it normally would not cause great problems for a healty individual aka hospital workers.

This resistance is important! How it related to Perper’s report I feel many over looked. We have a bacteria that is killing the frail, soldiers (remember Arizona over 100 dead) because MULTLI high does antibiotics aren’t working.

Yet....Perper can’t force this hardy germ to grow from any samples he took from ANS! Perper wants us to believe ALL traces of this almost impossible to treat supergerm even with multiple IV drugs, was suddenly gone from Anna’s blood on a few Cipro pills!!! See what I mean? If this were possible the Army and Navy would be stock piling Cipro in tiny blister packs of two a day and the problem would be solved!

Perper found nothing he could make grow her folks, not even a virus! He even states there was “no evidence of immunodepressed state”.

Look at all the sample he took and still......nothing!
“Blood, urine, lung, and CSF cultures, however, failed to grow either of these micro-organisms”

2. Extensive microscopic examination of body tissues. 3. Laboratory examinations of fluids and body tissues: a. Microbiology (bacterial cultures of blood, cerebro-spinal fluid, urine, buttocks, breast implants capsules, lungs and intestinal contents.) (viral cultures of lungs, heart and stools) b. Serology (enzymes and protein immunoassays, hepatitis profile, human immunodeficiency virus, rapid protein reagent, complement, C3, endotoxins, cytokines, double stranded DNA, ANA.


1,157 posted on 10/21/2007 4:27:04 AM PDT by nature
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