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Anna Nicole Smith, Seeking Justice #4

Posted on 10/13/2007 6:14:00 PM PDT by fatima

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To: lakey

IF you saw the show, Don domineered the dialog.
AND he got Thomspon to admit she was there.
He made her a liar right there. lol
Bring em up against FBI experience, Love It!


381 posted on 10/15/2007 8:15:02 PM PDT by nature
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To: DorisCCC

She is on Lincoln’s big sting tape denying she was there to Rita. Saying when was I there, I was never there.

One night with Don and he gets her busted.


382 posted on 10/15/2007 8:17:24 PM PDT by nature
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To: lakey

Thanks, lakey. I really thought that’s why Clark got so mad. I was pretty sure Thompson was yelling over him that there was no meeting. Clark did not like being called a liar and I don’t blame him. Then tonight she says she was there with DC, nannies and spouses, and Bain. A poster on another board said she remembered Thompson denying the meeting also, then changing her story tonight. What I don’t understand is how she can get on tv and state one thing and a day or so later, say the opposite. She must think the American people are stupid.


383 posted on 10/15/2007 8:25:16 PM PDT by DorisCCC
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To: All
Had to work all day and have looked over the comments.

Rita got set up and they even admitted doing it. But I think Rita knew what they were up to (in part) and outfoxed the foxes.

Who knew the nannies when the video bit occurred. Girls gab. They probably told a bunch of "girls" shortly after it happened.

Who do they work for now?? Maybe one of the Gibsons?? Wouldn't surprise me!

It'll probably be a week before something happens.

And why hasn't Larry filed his suit against Rita?? If anything, Larry's should have come BEFORE Howards.

Night all...Tough day!!

384 posted on 10/15/2007 8:25:34 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: nature

They were talking so fast on some of the tapes that I didn’t catch that. Maybe Thompson’s own lawyer told her she’d better fess up to the meeting. Gotta love Don. I knew he was telling the truth.


385 posted on 10/15/2007 8:31:33 PM PDT by DorisCCC
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To: All

In defense of Greta, I think that she’s playing it smart by giving Bain and the Bahamian attorney airtime and thereby giving them enough rope to hang themselves. I say, let Greta ask questions and let them talk . So far, they can’t get their stories straight from one program to another !

There’s also no doubt in my mind that Rita’s tape is authentic. I think that Greta believes so, as well.

Just my two cents folks .


386 posted on 10/15/2007 8:43:59 PM PDT by baysider
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To: nature; Lizarde

I agree with Liz. He probably has them and O’Q is keeping them under wraps.


387 posted on 10/15/2007 9:26:53 PM PDT by gopheraj
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To: SUN68RAY

UTube
Posted March 23, 07
By: Controversytv

LIncoln Bain trying to crash chapel where ANS funeral was held - brutal in intimidating a young man, forcing his way into door, accusing young man of touching him or ‘/getting up off me’ when the young man is trying to close up the chapel for the night and just standing there trying to get Bain to leave, accuses young man of ‘assaulting me’ by attempting to close the door on the yelling of Bain and his compatriats, and ‘discrimination’ against ‘christians’ for wanting to ‘come in and pray for Lent’ keeps telling young man, ..you can’t close the door - never tell me I can’t go to church - you’re not closing the door on me...this tape goes on for 6 minutes of Bain harassing this young church employee.

tape then cuts to outside of chapel next day during (prior to?) funeral - Bain in face of policeman shouting you letting White Boys with no permits...

then back outside Funeral - complaining CNN has no permit - no permits for ‘white boys’ media for ‘all those “white people” over there’ is out of order - “freedom, freedom” - carrying a sign with ANS’s picture on it, and actively demonstrating against ‘white’ media with ‘no permits’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qgr9rDDymo


388 posted on 10/15/2007 10:04:18 PM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: DorisCCC

What I find interesting is one of Lincoln’s points he attempts to use is he wasn’t talking on his tape, just yeah yeah and “Rita is saying it all”.

Then we get Rita’s tape and ol Bains is jabber jaws himself. :D

No wonder he didn’t provide THAT tape with his. And I bet that is why he can’t find the Don tape too! What is Thompson’s deal with the ‘husband’s ... um... prospective husbands”? Is Bains in bed with one? Good Christian girl living common law?


389 posted on 10/15/2007 10:19:41 PM PDT by nature
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To: Lizarde

Hey Lizarde I did some looking around about this Dawna person and found some things...Her name is Dawna Kaufmann and she works for The Globe.

In a recent commentary we reported that we were satisfied that Dawna Kaufmann, the reporter for Globe, a supermarket tabloid, was telling the truth when she wrote that Dr. Henry Lee had told her that he would like to see the investigation of the death of Vince Foster reopened. Ms. Kaufmann had interviewed Lee, a forensics expert hired as a consultant on the Foster case by Ken Starr, after reading his new book, “Famous Crimes Revisited.” In the book, Lee admitted that some of the evidence that Foster was murdered was “compelling.”

Now we find a great story on Page 30 of the new GLOBE magazine (October 30, 2006) by Dawna Kaufmann — a full page story with the headline “Security experts warn of possible Anna Nicole DNA Plot!”

As for this article by Dawna Kaufmann — too, good for words.

The article has a photo of Larry Birkhead with the caption “Dad?” and of Howard K. Stern with the caption “Dad?” Anna Nicole on a balcony or stairway, and photos of the trash outside her Bahamas mansion, filled with baby items.

Last week’s GLOBE had a nice two-page spread on Anna Nicole’s heartbreaking, tragic loss of her child Daniel written by Dawna Kaufmann.

Thought you would find this interesting....


390 posted on 10/15/2007 10:22:03 PM PDT by SUN68RAY
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To: sodpoodle
If Lincoln Bain was there, that makes 7 people. Can anyone clear this up?

um...1) Liz can't count,or, 2) Bain is a boyfriend/husband, or, 3) Liz trying to establish it's their word against a singular Clark (who they STILL havent' figured out who he really is), or, 4) Liz is a nanny?? hehe

391 posted on 10/15/2007 10:36:43 PM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: blueplum

thanks plum

Oh my heavens saint preserve!!!

Lincoln actually claimed to BE the Son of God!!!!
He is insane! A thug!

He is a nobody there. You can see it. He is just another fool shouting in a crowd and doesn’t even stand out. He is truly deranged to misuse the house of God for his violence and rage.


392 posted on 10/15/2007 10:40:18 PM PDT by nature
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To: blueplum

Don
Wilma

Nanny
Nanny

Potential husband
Potential husband

I get it! Liz doesn’t think she counts :D


393 posted on 10/15/2007 10:45:16 PM PDT by nature
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To: blueplum

This is a rush transcript from “On the Record ,” October 12, 2007. This copy may not be in its final form and may be updated.

GRETA VAN SUSTEREN, HOST: Will Friday’s search warrants be followed by arrest warrants? Let’s bring in our legal panel. Paul, of course, is still with us in San Francisco, and joining us there is former assistant DA Jim Hammer, Washington defense attorney Ted Williams, and in Southfield, Michigan, is defense attorney Geoff Fieger. Geoff, who should be nervous tonight?

GEOFFREY FIEGER, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: All of the above, including Howard K. Smith, which is...

VAN SUSTEREN: Stern.

FIEGER: ... going to — Stern. Excuse me. He’s not the newscaster. You’re right. It’s not going to assist his claim against Rita Cosby that he was in the house that was raided. He is an essential figure in that drug investigation. He’s the one who supplied the drugs. He’s even admitted purchasing a number of drugs. Even if he’s not eventually indicted, Greta, his involvement in that cannot help him and would be this (ph) — in a libel and slander case, which we’ll talk about a little later, his involvement in that drug investigation is going to become facts that are relevant against him.

VAN SUSTEREN: Jim, one of the most stunning little pieces of information that the attorney general of California, Jerry Brown, said — I don’t know if you picked it up, but the law enforcement agencies that are involved, the DEA — that means the feds are involved in this. But he also said the Seminole tribal law enforcement, which to me is giant because now we’re talking — although that’s — that’s where she died. She died in a casino within their jurisdiction, or a hotel there. Any of your thoughts as you listened to Brown?

JIM HAMMER, FORMER ASST. SAN FRANCISCO DA: Well, I think Geoff Fieger is a very smart defense lawyer to say everybody’s in trouble. I mean, listen, the fact of the matter is that she died from these drugs. We all know that. The point is there are many causes leading up to that — the doctors who prescribed it unlawfully, apparently, the people who gave it to her, people who didn’t say no.

The question is, Do any of them rise to the level of proximate cause, so you get a homicide charge out of it? And I think nobody is out of the woods yet. I want to say Amen that finally, these doctors are, hopefully, going to be brought to account because leading back to Elvis up until now, celebrities like this are — frankly, fall victims to people sucking up to them and giving them stuff that kills them.

VAN SUSTEREN: And what you didn’t hear — that viewers didn’t hear in this presidents conference is they’ve gone through something like 100,000 documents, or something extraordinary, since the March...

HAMMER: And that’s why it took so long.

VAN SUSTEREN: That’s why it’s been going on, and it’s still going on. Ted, your thoughts on that.

HAMMER: Exactly.

TED WILLIAMS, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I believe everybody certainly is being looked at, but I do not believe they’re being looked at as a homicide. I think they’re probably looking at overprescribing. But one of the problems they have...

VAN SUSTEREN: Which can lead to a homicide, assuming there is — and assuming that the medical diagnosis — and of course (INAUDIBLE) question what Perper said and what — that’s a whole ‘nother discussion.

WILLIAMS: But again, it’ll be very difficult, I think, to prove, in light of the fact that Dr. Perper out there in Florida has already said it was an accidental death. But I do believe that one of the things that they are looking at is the license of both of these doctors, and that also could be in serious jeopardy. So — but I do believe also, Greta, this is eight months late. A lot of evidence perhaps by now has been destroyed. This — I mean, you know, it’s...

FIEGER: No, it hasn’t.

(CROSSTALK)

VAN SUSTEREN: No, it hasn’t, Ted...

FIEGER: No, Ted, it hasn’t because all the records...

(CROSSTALK)

WILLIAMS: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. What would not be destroyed is the paper trail. That paper trail will always be there...

VAN SUSTEREN: Hard drive, the computer hard drive.

WILLIAMS: ... and they can follow up on that.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, we’re going to take a quick break. Panel, st and by. We’re going to have more with you later.

And the nanny speaks out right here. Did Anna Nicole’s Bahamian nannies really see a video of sex acts between Howard K. Stern and Larry Birkhead? One of the nannies will join us. You will hear from her ahead.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

VAN SUSTEREN: Two of Anna Nicole Smith’s doctors may be in hot water tonight. Their homes and offices were among the six places raided by California authorities today.

Forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden joins us by phone. Our legal panel is also still here, as is AP reporter Paul Elias. Dr. Baden, I just (INAUDIBLE)

DR. MICHAEL BADEN, FORENSIC PATHOLOGIST: Hi, Greta.

VAN SUSTEREN: ... one quick question with you. In terms of Dr. Perper’s autopsy and his conclusions as to why and how Anna Nicole Smith died, is there any question in your mind that he was right?

BADEN: Well, there are two things. One is, even though it’s called an accident, if, in fact, the drugs given to Anna Nicole were given improperly or illegally, if she were given drugs illegally, it really can be converted to a homicide. So I think there are two things here. One is a homicide possibility if the drugs were illicitly given to Anna Nicole improperly, illegally. Also, that whole business you talked about, remember, about the hair, the only reason to exhume her body which was mentioned in some of the reports is to get hair out to see how long she’d been taking these drugs, to get a timeline as to when she started taking these massive amounts of drugs and which doctor was supplying her at that time.

VAN SUSTEREN: Thank you, Dr. Baden.

Let me go back to Paul, our AP reporter. Paul, it struck me — and maybe I’m wrong about this — but the fact that the attorney general of the state of California, Jerry Brown, is the one who conducted this press conference, that this is a, certainly, you know, far more serious investigation than simply a routine one to close up the books.

ELIAS: Well, I mean, I suppose it cuts to the heart of — I mean, one of the things that Attorney General Brown I think has been hammering away at in his brief time in office is prescription drug abuse. And this is probably a high-profile case to use that, to say, Hey, you know, prescription drug abuse is as much of a problem, if not more of a problem in this country than, say, you know, cocaine abuse or heroin abuse.

And so is it unusual? Yes. But is it — is it — is it crazy? I don’t think so, especially given this multi-district — I mean, you know, you have houses in Los Angeles and Orange County, and this is where the attorney general steps in, when jurisdictions cross county boundaries. So it’s unusual, but I don’t think it’s crazy.

VAN SUSTEREN: Geoff, in terms of the investigation — it started March 30, over 100,000 documents, the multi-jurisdiction certainly is a question, but what questions would you have tonight for Dr. Perper, Howard K. Stern, Mo, who was there when she died, Dr. Eroshevich, left 24 hours later — what are the questions you’re interested in?

FIEGER: One of the things you didn’t ask me but I just think is — he’s almost unrecognizable, Jerry Brown, from the presidential candidate, the Buddhist...

(LAUGHTER)

FIEGER: ... to what we just saw.

VAN SUSTEREN: That was Ted’s...

(CROSSTALK)

VAN SUSTEREN: That was Ted’s question for you, or Jim’s, I guess.

(LAUGHTER)

FIEGER: He literally — he’s unrecognizable. I’m not just saying physically. Just as — I mean, he was a different guy when he was California governor and running for president and going out with Linda Ronstadt.

Listen, the issue is, why is this woman being prescribed these drugs in the first place in these amounts? I understand that all of the prescriptions may not have even been in her name. Who were they given to? Was Howard Stern picking them up? Was he delivering them to her? Obviously, they had a close relationship. He’s in the house right now while they’re raiding the doctor’s house. I mean, there is something going on here.

They’re not talking about murder, though. They’re talking about criminal negligence. That’s enough to take these doctors’ licenses away and get everybody in a lot of trouble. Nobody is talking about murder, and they’re not going to go after that. They’re going to go after criminal negligence.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, 10 seconds, Jim, and I’ve got to take a break.

HAMMER: I think Geoff’s right, manslaughter ought to be looked at in this case. And for doctors to give these quantity of drugs, they ought to seriously be looked at for prosecution for manslaughter.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,301759,00.html


394 posted on 10/15/2007 10:57:35 PM PDT by SUN68RAY
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To: PeskyOne

ok, but we knew this on friday. What am I missing, help me out Pesky.
pfft.
Larry is quiet because it is Howard’s turn. Aren’t they cute, they always take turns. Good lovers well orchestrated - they share so well ;)


395 posted on 10/15/2007 10:58:07 PM PDT by nature
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To: Lizarde

Rita has a source; journalists usually don’t give up their source(s).

Clark let Thompson/LincolnBain know, that in addition to Rita’s source, he was also a source, but was not THE source(s) Rita has.

Rita was intentionally enticed/baited to the Bahamas, after (according to Bain some 60? telephone recordings) with the promise of a THIRD source - the nannies, themselves face to face with Rita. “expenses” have been a consistent topic of Bain interviews.

As of this date, the nannies have directly talked to 1) Clark, 2) Craig (from geraldo show) and unknown others. They appeared on Greta’s show by telephone to read a prepared statement only, with Bain on the phone with them.

Lincoln Bain actively protested against the ‘white’ media being given exclusive rights to ANS funeral. Rita was part of the ‘white media’ that Bain protested against.

Rita is now being pressured by the american media, provoked by Thompson/Bain appearances (with both asking for more interviews - see thompson remarks on Greta this date), to badger Rita into revealing her source(s).

The question we have to ask, is, Why is the discussion of Rita’s book been refocused into ‘sources’ for one miniscule part of her book? And what happened to a journalist protecting her sources? Of what great, overwhelming importance, is HER source, at this particular time, when her claim has already been substantiated by Clark, himself?


396 posted on 10/15/2007 11:00:04 PM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: sodpoodle

KE was with ANS for at least part of those three months - wonder if she watched it too? also the gaydaddies, self-appointed godfathers, were there following the birth...also Moe, also the houston ex-cop in the swimming pool guy, also...


397 posted on 10/15/2007 11:25:15 PM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: blueplum

Miami — A Miami lawyer has billed the estate of Anna Nicole Smith $200,000 for work dealing with Smith’s funeral and her baby daughter, Dannielynn.
Attorney Richard Milstein, who was guardian ad litem for the infant for three weeks this year, billed the child’s trust fund $900 per hour, The Palm Beach Post has reported.

Dannielynn’s father, Larry Birkhead, and the executor of Smith’s estate, Howard Stern, have filed a complaint in a Broward County court to stop Milstein from collecting.

“It’s outrageous,” said Nancy Hass, Birkhead’s attorney. “I’m a guardian ad litem, too, and I always reduce my fees when I deal with children. A lot of work produced (by Milstein) was unnecessary.”

Stern’s attorney, Krista Barth added: “That’s $900 an hour! People believe the baby is rich. Couldn’t be further from the truth. Mr. Milstein even charged for another lawyer at his firm to go to Anna’s funeral.”

Milstein didn’t return the Post’s calls, but said by e-mail, “The three weeks of work entailed the work of five people, not just myself, in order to handle the multiple details involved in handling the trial and funeral arrangements.”
http://www.themoneytimes.com/news/20071015/anna_nicole_legal_battles_rage_on-id-1011383.html


398 posted on 10/15/2007 11:50:42 PM PDT by SUN68RAY
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To: Sacajaweau
Who do they work for now?? Maybe one of the Gibsons?? Wouldn't surprise me!

I recall some mention from nadine that sometimes she worked later because the other nanny had to go to her job 'that would give her papers' - the other nanny was recounting her conversation with Shane Gibson who asked about her status, and said that Anna couldn't give her papers, so what was she going to do? (about being there illegally without papers)...I'm not sure what the law is in the bahamas over who can and can't 'give papers' to illegals seeking residence (I'd assume a bahamian national?)

this was on the 'nanny tapes' posted by controversy

399 posted on 10/16/2007 12:59:30 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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To: nature

hehe - thought you’d get a kick outa that!

the funniest part, is, it’s one of the first videos he uploaded to Utube - bet he didn’t think it would come back to bite him haha :)

you’re right - he is a thug ;)


400 posted on 10/16/2007 1:05:10 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
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