[[You have no concept of science. Give me an example that I can refute and stop speaking in generalities.]]
Ah- getting personal- how quaint-
Want an example that is taught in school as fact? an example of ‘nature did it” and ‘because we said so’? Fine- Macroevolution!-
[[I’ll give a very simple example. Why are humans taller on average now than at any point in history?]]
We are? Hmmm- I guess someone forgot to tell Goliath and his clan that - oh, and you can chalk the average up to MICOEvolution- not Macroevolution
[[Occam’s Razor says we’re evolving. What is the creationist theory?]]
Lol- Species reamining within their own KINDS is a fien fine example of Macroevolution- whoops- no it isn’t
[[definitions of both THEORY and HYPOTHESIS and the scientific method. I suggest you familiarize yourself with these concepts, they come in handy when arguing science.]]
Lol- htis coming from someone who doesn’t understand the difference between Micro and Macro evolution? Wanna keep on with hte personal insults? Just say hte word. And just for the record- I know you’re all upset over Humphries- but how about at least keeping your accusations factual and representative of what Humpphries is actually saying instead of assigning false statements to him- Where is he stating that what he is proposiing is ‘fact’ ‘just because he says so’? Looks like I’m not hte one who needs to freshen up on their definitions there fella.
I will remind you that I didn’t bring evolution into this thread, you did. But since you asked. The purely scientific opinion would be that evolution has yet to be disproven and the facts fit it as well as any other theory (and a little better than most) proposed so far, so it is the going theory on how things work. That being said...it IS still a theory. And until something concrete comes along that can DISprove it, then it is the theory that science is working with. Again, it best fits the facts as they are known today.
As for what will henceforth be known as your “Goliath” example: I can give you singular data points too. Note I said AVERAGE human.
To the difference between micro- and macro- evolution, you never did specify in your earlier posts. You wanted me to give you an example of evolution, I did. But the point is I can give direct examples of evolution (macro and micro) all day long and you’ll just throw ad-hominem generalities back at me. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.
Really when I first read this thread I was hoping it would be a scientific discussion of the Pioneer Anomaly, but unfortunately it’s been another thread ruined by those of you who value your imaginary friend over cold hard facts. I should know better by now than to try and get a reasonable scientific discussion going on FR.
Before I close, let me say this. I appreciate that people are able to find comfort in the idea that there is some greater plan, and that we’re put here for a reason. But from my point of view, logically speaking, this has no basis in fact. Again, this is my point of view, take it for what it’s worth. I have no problem with you believing whatever you need to to get yourself through the day. If it helps you sleep at night, then that’s fine. But, you also need to recognize a case of cognitive dissonance when you feel it coming on. I agree that having a completely open mind is a recipe for disaster, but I think that, like a border, you need to have controlled points of entry and exit, where things are checked thoroughly before they’re admitted. Closing yourself off completely will only cause internal discohesion and disintegration.
*Dons asbestos suit.*