I will remind you that I didn’t bring evolution into this thread, you did. But since you asked. The purely scientific opinion would be that evolution has yet to be disproven and the facts fit it as well as any other theory (and a little better than most) proposed so far, so it is the going theory on how things work. That being said...it IS still a theory. And until something concrete comes along that can DISprove it, then it is the theory that science is working with. Again, it best fits the facts as they are known today.
As for what will henceforth be known as your “Goliath” example: I can give you singular data points too. Note I said AVERAGE human.
To the difference between micro- and macro- evolution, you never did specify in your earlier posts. You wanted me to give you an example of evolution, I did. But the point is I can give direct examples of evolution (macro and micro) all day long and you’ll just throw ad-hominem generalities back at me. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink.
Really when I first read this thread I was hoping it would be a scientific discussion of the Pioneer Anomaly, but unfortunately it’s been another thread ruined by those of you who value your imaginary friend over cold hard facts. I should know better by now than to try and get a reasonable scientific discussion going on FR.
Before I close, let me say this. I appreciate that people are able to find comfort in the idea that there is some greater plan, and that we’re put here for a reason. But from my point of view, logically speaking, this has no basis in fact. Again, this is my point of view, take it for what it’s worth. I have no problem with you believing whatever you need to to get yourself through the day. If it helps you sleep at night, then that’s fine. But, you also need to recognize a case of cognitive dissonance when you feel it coming on. I agree that having a completely open mind is a recipe for disaster, but I think that, like a border, you need to have controlled points of entry and exit, where things are checked thoroughly before they’re admitted. Closing yourself off completely will only cause internal discohesion and disintegration.
*Dons asbestos suit.*
==The purely scientific opinion would be that evolution has yet to be disproven and the facts fit it as well as any other theory (and a little better than most) proposed so far, so it is the going theory on how things work. That being said...it IS still a theory. And until something concrete comes along that can DISprove it, then it is the theory that science is working with. Again, it best fits the facts as they are known today.
read: DARWIN OF THE GAPS THEORY
[[Again, it best fits the facts as they are known today.]]
Actually no it doesn’t Kev- it’s a biological impossibility- that doesn’t exactly fit the bill for ‘fitting the facts’
[[But the point is I can give direct examples of evolution (macro and micro) all day long and you’ll just throw ad-hominem generalities back at me]]
No, you can’t give examples of Macroevolution Kev and no I won’t throw ad hominem attacks at you should you decide you wish to keep the conversation/discussion civil.
[[but unfortunately it’s been another thread ruined by those of you who value your imaginary friend over cold hard facts.]]
See- there ya go with your snotty little attitude again Kev- so please- enough with the ‘woa is me’ sob story about ‘being attacked- ok?
[[I should know better by now than to try and get a reasonable scientific discussion going on FR.]]
And of course by ‘reasonable’ you mean belittling and maligning those who don’t hold the same views as you- Swell- aint that just swell!
[[I have no problem with you believing whatever you need to to get yourself through the day. If it helps you sleep at night, then that’s fine.]]
Oh but you do have a problem Kev- you aren’t fooling nyone but perhaps the guillible- just you ‘sympathetic’ tone ‘allowing others’ to ‘beleive what they like’ if it ‘helps them sleep at night’ (but of course- those ‘wiser’ than us poor slobs who beleive in God know better than to put any faith in an imaginary God- right Kev?)
[[But, you also need to recognize a case of cognitive dissonance when you feel it coming on.]]
There ya go again Kev- You just can’t help yourself, can you? Just gotta keep stickin that knife in when we least expect it eh? Now, by cognitive disconnect’ are you talking about hte same cognitive disconnect’ that enables a person to ignore biological impossibilities and ignore blatant violations of the second law of thermodynamics, and ignore the staggering mathematical impossibiltiies of mutations ever moving a creature beyond it’s own KINDS, and still beleiving in Macroevolution despite htose very serious problems to the hypothesis? That kind of cognitive disconnect Kev?
[[Closing yourself off completely will only cause internal discohesion and disintegration.]]
Lol- closing myself off- that’s precious- I beleived in evolution for quite soem time- but it wasn’t until I began to open myself to the fact that the impossibiltities meant just that- impossibilities, did I recognize that Macroevolution simply was an impossible hypothesis- But you Ga Head and keep beleiving it isn’t- that it doesn’t have any ‘real problems’ to overcome, and you keep right on ridiculing, maligning and dissin anyone that brings htose problems to the forefront- Wouldn’t want you to be ‘disconnected’ from your pet hypothesis no matter the problems associated with it now would we?
P.S Nice little victims act you put on- but noone’s buying it!