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The man who died half a million years ago
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Posted on 10/05/2007 4:25:03 AM PDT by Renfield

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1 posted on 10/05/2007 4:25:06 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: blam; SunkenCiv

Really old dead person ping.


2 posted on 10/05/2007 4:25:37 AM PDT by Renfield (How come there aren't any football teams with pink uniforms?)
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To: Renfield

He’s still dead, Jim.


3 posted on 10/05/2007 4:32:23 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Renfield

“””In a gravel pit at Boxgrove, just outside Chichester, the remains of a man have been discovered, half a million years old.””

Re-write!!!

The remains of a man have been discovered. He is believed to have died 500,000 years ago.


4 posted on 10/05/2007 4:46:45 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Despair -Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption)
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To: sodpoodle

The Brits just don’t speak proper English, do they?


5 posted on 10/05/2007 4:50:15 AM PDT by shekkian
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To: Renfield
Only a shin bone and two teeth

It's been many many, moons since Old Ben studied Anthropology but -- I don't think gender can be determined from just those remains.

6 posted on 10/05/2007 5:52:19 AM PDT by BenLurkin
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7 posted on 10/05/2007 7:46:53 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Profile updated Wednesday, September 27, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: BenLurkin
It's been many many, moons since Old Ben studied Anthropology but -- I don't think gender can be determined from just those remains.

Gender can be inferred from the size of bones.

But even with complete skeletons, sex estimates won't be 100% correct. With skulls alone, good bone folks can probably get in the low 90% range for a population.

8 posted on 10/05/2007 8:22:10 AM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: Renfield

Wow, what a great find!!


9 posted on 10/05/2007 8:28:26 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)
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To: Renfield
Amazing! one shin bone, and two teeth found 39 inches lower, and we have a man who died a half million years ago. Excuse we while I doubt the accuracy of this report.

YEC INTREP

10 posted on 10/05/2007 8:44:09 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Renfield

I thought this was about Frank Lautenberg.


11 posted on 10/05/2007 8:44:52 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Renfield
Uh oh.

I thought man had only been around for about 10,000 years.

12 posted on 10/05/2007 10:58:13 AM PDT by cerberus
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To: Coyoteman
But even with complete skeletons, sex estimates won't be 100% correct.

It seems the only way to be 99.99% certain of sex is to have a complete pelvis of a female who has given birth.

(I suppose you could take that two ways...)

13 posted on 10/05/2007 12:07:02 PM PDT by Max in Utah (If your neighbors were trespassing, wouldn't you build a nice tall fence?)
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To: LiteKeeper

Weird, i had a midterm and i used Boxgrove man as an example for how early humanoids used climate change to their benefit. This find is actually fairly old, 1983-1996. They actually used faunal remains to date the stratigraphy. The main fossils were voles that due to their eagerness to adapt to climatic and terrestorial changes they make great analytic tools for dating sites that dont have associated charcoal deposits.


14 posted on 10/05/2007 5:22:04 PM PDT by Docbarleypop (navy doc)
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To: Docbarleypop
Weird, i had a midterm and i used Boxgrove man as an example for how early humanoids used climate change to their benefit. This find is actually fairly old, 1983-1996. They actually used faunal remains to date the stratigraphy. The main fossils were voles that due to their eagerness to adapt to climatic and terrestorial changes they make great analytic tools for dating sites that dont have associated charcoal deposits.

That form of dating, using something which appears for a short time, is said to rely on a "time stratigraphic marker." In the future, the removable pop-tops from beer cans will be an excellent example--widespread, narrow in time, and extremely durable!

Radiocarbon dating is only good back to about 50,000 years, so most fossil man finds have to be dated by other means.

I have a bunch of good radiocarbon links on my FR home page if anyone wants more details.

15 posted on 10/05/2007 6:10:25 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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The associated fauna - notably some voles' teeth, show that the site is to be dated to a period before the 'Anglian' or 'Great' ice age, and should therefore be around 500,000 years old...

Should!

There's also could-be would-be and may-be...

16 posted on 10/05/2007 7:42:12 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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The associated fauna - notably some voles' teeth, show that the site is to be dated to a period before the 'Anglian' or 'Great' ice age, and should therefore be around 500,000 years old...

Should!

There's also could-be would-be and may-be...

So you are going to correct experts in Pleistocene marker fauna on the basis of ... ?

17 posted on 10/05/2007 8:11:48 PM PDT by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Norfolk Mammoth Finds - Public Are Eyes And Ears Say Experts

(Meanwhile, elsewhere in East Anglia)

“There’s pollen, beetles, macroflora – all in incredible detail. The really important thing about the site is that there’s not just one time window but a broad range of deposits covering from perhaps 10,000-120,000 years ago.”

The finds are of much interest to researchers of the Ice Age, and those looking into the early colonisation of the British Isles, and have led to a study involving experts from the Ancient Human Occupation of Britain Project from the British Museum, the Natural History Museum, Queen Mary University, London, and NMAS.

Norfolk is blessed when it comes to the remains of woolly mammoths and the flora and fauna of the Ice Age, as Nigel explained:

“Although we have not found any evidence of humans at the Saham Toney site, just three miles away downstream in the 1970s amateur archaeologists found three Neanderthal tools and in 2002, just seven kilometres away downstream, we found the remains of a dozen woolly mammoths and over fifty Neanderthal flint handaxes dated to about 60,000 years ago. Each of these sites are part of the bigger picture, part of the jigsaw.”

Many parts of this jigsaw - including the remarkable 2002 discovery in a gravel pit at Lynford in which a dozen woolly mammoth skeletons were found with the remains of reindeer, woolly rhino, bison and over fifty Neanderthal flint handaxes - were unearthed by members of the public. The Lynford site turned out to be the best Neanderthal site ever discovered in the British Isles and is of international significance...

18 posted on 10/05/2007 8:19:14 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: Coyoteman
and should therefore be around 500,000 years old...

the 'experts' aren't convinced, why should I be? And there's nothing to 'correct' because of the experts' quite evident uncertainty...

bit cranky today, are we hmm?

19 posted on 10/05/2007 8:38:52 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair dinkum!)
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To: cerberus

The humankind descended from Adam have only been around for approx. 6000+ years. How long humankind have been on the planet is not covered in the Bible, if that’s what you’re trying to denigrate.


20 posted on 10/05/2007 8:47:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support. Defend life support for others in the womb.)
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