2 deaths at Ozzfest, arrests lead to booze ban in parking lot

Newsday.com ^ | August 17, 2007

[sauropod]

I also like Metallica and AC/DC, so I have Barry Manilow gayness offset credits.

You'd better ;-)

[Drew68]

I’ll bet a good old fashioned fireplace bellows will defeat that stupid breathalyser.

LOL!!! What a genius idea!!!

[toddlintown]

Alcohol busts at an Ozzfest? Man, where’s the old days of pot and acid?

So old-school.

[359Henrie]

In your day, weed was crap!

[donna]

Yeah, those Marxists and Socialists in 1884 when the Boston police arrested 16,780 for drunkenness.

Nobody likes a drunk. It has always been so.

[SteveMcKing]

Haven’t seen that in about 5 years.

It would appear on billboards, if I had my way, with no context or captions.

Only the stupid would require an explanation, and they will never be convinced anyway.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the ping!

[lormand]

"In your day, weed was crap!"

That's BS

Two strains you never see nowadays are Columbian Red and Panama Gold. Both are classics that can't be found domestically anymore.

Both the taste and high were excellent.

[Libloather]

I have Barry Manilow gayness offset credits.

Where do you get yours? Unfortunately I hafta score mine on the street...

[Libloather]

In your day, weed was crap!

How would you know?

[4yearlurker]

Went to a J.Giels Band concert in the early 70’s and a riot broke out on the floor. Suddenly the floor was filled with fat Philly cops and their police dogs. It was an exciting show between bands. Shoot,tickets back then were only 6 bucks to see 3 major bands!

[4yearlurker]

You are soooo right! In 1975 Panama Gold was going for 35 bucks an ounce! There was some black stuff around back then called Chiba Chiba.

[4yearlurker]

I got you both beat. A few years back I took my Mother in law to a Andy Williams Christmas concert. I never smelled so much Ben gay in my life!

[TChris]

There is a big difference between rapists, murderers, pedophiles and the behavior on that list. I’ll give you 30 minutes, 20 questions and/or 3 guesses (the first two don’t count) to try and figure it out.

Of course there is. That was the point.

The difference is in where you draw the moral line. For you, it happens to be in a different place than it is for me. I listed those extreme examples to make the point that, to other individuals, the moral line between right and wrong is in an entirely different place.

If you argue that society shouldn't "impose their morals" on others, where should it stop?

[Eric Blair 2084]

Unfortunately T, when most of the wishy washy middle/independent voters think of “Republicans” or “Conservatives” your philosophy is what comes to mind.

They think that you just want to impose your morals on others. They don’t like it. For the same reason we don’t like Socialists imposing their Gubmint control on us. Anyone who is 18+ and of voting age naturally rejects the idea of people telling them what to do. It’s human nature.

I thank you for thinking about what I said before answering with an ad hominem attack. I think we are on the same page and you get it.

In order to function in a free country there is one simple rule: Don’t directly harm anyone else.

And if you want to hang someone or stone them for violating this rule, you better be very careful. No junk science or creative prosecution.

[TChris]

They think that you just want to impose your morals on others.

That's the most shallow, adolescent argument I see on Free Republic. It really should be beneath all of us.

What are laws? I mean really, at the foundation of it, what are laws?

They're the codification of a society's morals. In our form of government, they're what the majority has judged immoral in their society.

Murder is illegal because it's morally wrong. The same with theft and rape. It's all morals.

The majority can and does "impose" its morality on the people. That's what government and the rule of law is.

So, the real question, the honest question, is where should the moral line be drawn? To either pretend that there isn't one in the law already, or that there shouldn't be, are both short-sighted, foolish angles.

[Eric Blair 2084]

First of all, don't shoot the messenger. I'm telling you what you might already know but don't care about...namely that the wishy washy "independent" voters think that the Republican Party and Conservatives are the party of Big Gubmint who want to impose their morals on others. You seem to say..."Yes! So what?" That's fine. Just realize that is the general perception out there whether it is true or not. Perception is reality. It is costing us votes.

Secondly, the crimes you mentioned directly harm others. I'm concerned that some conservatives are becoming increasingly interested in protecting people (and their souls) from themselves and want to involve Gubmint in the solution. Whereas a true Christian would understand that the answer is between the person and God. Government has nothing to do with it.