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2 deaths at Ozzfest, arrests lead to booze ban in parking lot
Newsday.com ^ | August 17, 2007

Posted on 08/17/2007 2:52:47 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084

Authorities are taking a tougher approach after a crackdown failed to stop underage drinking at PNC Bank Arts Center.

Effective Friday, alcohol is banned in the parking lot of the central New Jersey Arts Center. The ban comes a day after two people died and more than 80 people were arrested Thursday night at an Ozzfest concert.

Police are investigating the deaths of two men, identified as Raymond Guarino, 26, of Forked River and Patrick Norris, 24, of Coram, N.Y.

After possibly taking drugs and alcohol, both passed out in separate incidents at the concert, went into cardiac arrest and later died. State Police said the men were believed to have ingested cocaine, marijuana and alcohol prior to their deaths, and troopers who searched Guarino's vehicle found small amounts of both drugs.

Eighty-three people were arrested during the concert; 59 were charged with underage drinking. Other charges included distribution of drugs, lewd behavior and providing alcohol to a minor.

Authorities said the Ozzfest incidents were the latest in a long string of problems this season that led them to ban alcohol in the center's parking lot.

"This is a dramatic step to have to take, but one that is necessary given the potential consequences of such risky behavior," Gov. Jon S. Corzine said Friday.

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To: Eric Blair 2084
I also like Metallica and AC/DC, so I have Barry Manilow gayness offset credits.

You'd better ;-)

61 posted on 08/17/2007 6:39:00 PM PDT by sauropod (You can’t spell crap without the AP in it.)
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To: EricT.
I’ll bet a good old fashioned fireplace bellows will defeat that stupid breathalyser.

LOL!!! What a genius idea!!!

62 posted on 08/17/2007 7:07:00 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Alcohol busts at an Ozzfest? Man, where’s the old days of pot and acid?

So old-school.


63 posted on 08/17/2007 7:12:58 PM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: lormand

In your day, weed was crap!


64 posted on 08/17/2007 7:27:01 PM PDT by 359Henrie (We need Gen. Curtis Le May, Liberals give us Gen. Wesley Clark.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Yeah, those Marxists and Socialists in 1884 when the Boston police arrested 16,780 for drunkenness.

Nobody likes a drunk. It has always been so.


65 posted on 08/17/2007 7:35:05 PM PDT by donna (The United States Constitution and the Koran are mutually exclusive.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Haven’t seen that in about 5 years.

It would appear on billboards, if I had my way, with no context or captions.

Only the stupid would require an explanation, and they will never be convinced anyway.


66 posted on 08/17/2007 7:56:14 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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To: Eric Blair 2084

Thanks for the ping!


67 posted on 08/17/2007 8:39:05 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: 359Henrie
"In your day, weed was crap!"

That's BS

Two strains you never see nowadays are Columbian Red and Panama Gold. Both are classics that can't be found domestically anymore.

Both the taste and high were excellent.

68 posted on 08/18/2007 6:58:17 AM PDT by lormand
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To: Eric Blair 2084
I have Barry Manilow gayness offset credits.

Where do you get yours? Unfortunately I hafta score mine on the street...

69 posted on 08/19/2007 2:15:24 PM PDT by Libloather (That's just what I need - some two-bit, washed up, loser politician giving me weather forecasts...)
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To: 359Henrie
In your day, weed was crap!

How would you know?

70 posted on 08/19/2007 2:17:19 PM PDT by Libloather (That's just what I need - some two-bit, washed up, loser politician giving me weather forecasts...)
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Went to a J.Giels Band concert in the early 70’s and a riot broke out on the floor. Suddenly the floor was filled with fat Philly cops and their police dogs. It was an exciting show between bands. Shoot,tickets back then were only 6 bucks to see 3 major bands!
71 posted on 08/19/2007 2:34:04 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (All comments now being monitored by BOR. He's looking out for you!)
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To: lormand
You are soooo right! In 1975 Panama Gold was going for 35 bucks an ounce! There was some black stuff around back then called Chiba Chiba.
72 posted on 08/19/2007 2:37:21 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (All comments now being monitored by BOR. He's looking out for you!)
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To: monkfan
I got you both beat. A few years back I took my Mother in law to a Andy Williams Christmas concert. I never smelled so much Ben gay in my life!
73 posted on 08/19/2007 2:40:35 PM PDT by 4yearlurker (All comments now being monitored by BOR. He's looking out for you!)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
There is a big difference between rapists, murderers, pedophiles and the behavior on that list. I’ll give you 30 minutes, 20 questions and/or 3 guesses (the first two don’t count) to try and figure it out.

Of course there is. That was the point.

The difference is in where you draw the moral line. For you, it happens to be in a different place than it is for me. I listed those extreme examples to make the point that, to other individuals, the moral line between right and wrong is in an entirely different place.

If you argue that society shouldn't "impose their morals" on others, where should it stop?

74 posted on 08/20/2007 6:49:35 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: TChris

Unfortunately T, when most of the wishy washy middle/independent voters think of “Republicans” or “Conservatives” your philosophy is what comes to mind.

They think that you just want to impose your morals on others. They don’t like it. For the same reason we don’t like Socialists imposing their Gubmint control on us. Anyone who is 18+ and of voting age naturally rejects the idea of people telling them what to do. It’s human nature.

I thank you for thinking about what I said before answering with an ad hominem attack. I think we are on the same page and you get it.

In order to function in a free country there is one simple rule: Don’t directly harm anyone else.

And if you want to hang someone or stone them for violating this rule, you better be very careful. No junk science or creative prosecution.


75 posted on 08/20/2007 8:21:52 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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To: Eric Blair 2084
They think that you just want to impose your morals on others.

That's the most shallow, adolescent argument I see on Free Republic. It really should be beneath all of us.

What are laws? I mean really, at the foundation of it, what are laws?

They're the codification of a society's morals. In our form of government, they're what the majority has judged immoral in their society.

Murder is illegal because it's morally wrong. The same with theft and rape. It's all morals.

The majority can and does "impose" its morality on the people. That's what government and the rule of law is.

So, the real question, the honest question, is where should the moral line be drawn? To either pretend that there isn't one in the law already, or that there shouldn't be, are both short-sighted, foolish angles.

76 posted on 08/21/2007 12:54:22 AM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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To: TChris
First of all, don't shoot the messenger. I'm telling you what you might already know but don't care about...namely that the wishy washy "independent" voters think that the Republican Party and Conservatives are the party of Big Gubmint who want to impose their morals on others. You seem to say..."Yes! So what?" That's fine. Just realize that is the general perception out there whether it is true or not. Perception is reality. It is costing us votes.

Secondly, the crimes you mentioned directly harm others. I'm concerned that some conservatives are becoming increasingly interested in protecting people (and their souls) from themselves and want to involve Gubmint in the solution. Whereas a true Christian would understand that the answer is between the person and God. Government has nothing to do with it.

77 posted on 08/21/2007 9:43:59 PM PDT by Eric Blair 2084 (Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms shouldn't be a federal agency...it should be a convenience store.)
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