Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (Spoiler Alert!!)

07/11/07 | Dianna

[Dianna]

Please DO NOT read this thread if you have not seen the movie. Even if you have read this book, topics under discussion can affect what you will expect in the last book.

Several pet theories for the Deathy Hallows have, perhaps, been laid to rest by the release of this movie. A number of plot points I had thought were important to the end of the series were completely left out of Order of the Phoenix.

1. There is absolutely NO reference to the cleaning of Grimmauld Place. Thus, any speculation about the locket horcrux being hoarded by Kreacher must be false.

2. The prophecy was never heard in full. The portion of the prophecy which could have referred to Neville instead of Harry was omitted.

3. There was no mention of Percy's estrangement from his family. Percy was shown at Fudge's side at important points, but unless his face was remembered from previous movies, people not reading the book may not have caught that.

There were two plot changes which puzzled me. Cho was the one who gave Dumbledore's Army away, not the unimportant character of Marietta. Also, Sirius, before he falls through the veil calls Harry, "James". I assume these changes have a point, but I don't know what.

There was also no reference to Hermione and Ron being Prefects. There was no Quidditch at all, so Ron would not be on the team.

[dragonblustar]

That’s true. : )

I guess I’d like to know what book everyone else is reading next????

[schwing_wifey]

Sorry but I don’t think thats gonna happen...

but here’s to hoping I’m wrong....

;D

[null and void]

I don't recall Snape ever having a girlfriend.

Snape was mortified at having his boxers waved about while he was still in them.

I think the most mortifying part was that his secret love -Lilly- was there, and worse, she tried to protect him. He lashed out at her to cover his own shame and embarrassment, a very human (and especially teen-aged human!) reaction.

[dragonblustar]

I think I read that part in the British book I have. I’ll have to dig it out.

[dragonblustar]

It was like Harry was in Dumbledore’s office and he was looking into the pensive...Something about a girl catching Snape and his girlfriend kissing and Snape cast a hex on her.

[null and void]

*shrug* it’s a detail I simply don’t remember. (Although were I Rowling, her name would have been Nightshade, not Nightingale. It fits so much better with a potions master)...

[schwing_wifey]

You are going to be so sorry you asked...

I’m 100+ pages into HBP (again) but I just finished

Slave by Mende Nazer
The Double Bind by Chris Bohjalian (for the neighborhood book club) and
Night Over Water by Ken Follett

(I read like other people snack)

And thanks to a Barnes and Noble trip the other night, from their discount stacks, I have

Valhalla Rising by Clive Cussler
Naked Empire by Terry Goodkind
The Divided Crown by Isabel Glass

and an old favorite I’m re-reading called “The Ice People” by Rene Barjavel...translated 35+ year old French Science Fiction..tracked this baby down on Ebay...read it many many years ago... (I’m a bit of a book collector)

Any more questions???

;D

[dragonblustar]

Yeah, I just have one more question. What is a good book series? or did you mention them? I haven’t read any of the ones you mention and I think I’ll pop down to my local book store and check it out.

When I was in England a few years ago, I got the book Spooks Apprentice. It’s a kids book but it was fun. I never got to finish the series but I might if I go back to England next year.

[dragonblustar]

I think it was Nightingale because I remember thinking of the nurse who falls in love with her patients.

I moved a few months ago and all my books are still in boxes and I’ve got to start looking for them cause this is really bugging me.

[dragonblustar]

Did you read the Dark Materials books? The Amber Spy Glass?

[schwing_wifey]

The ones I mentioned are not series as far as I know... besides HP, there is one other SciFi writer I’m hooked on...

Anne McCaffery

She has a set of three called :
To Ride Pegasus
Pegasus in Flight and
Pegasus in Space...

That rolls into a series starting with “The Rowan”...

And she also has a series called “The Dragon Riders of Pern” which my son (14) started to read... I have most of her books (if not all)

These are my “comfort” reads... when I just want to read a little, I pick one of these up and read my favorite parts.

[schwing_wifey]

Did you read the Dark Materials books? The Amber Spy Glass?

I think I've heard of the series but never read one... Thanks, I'll have to jot it down and look it up

[dragonblustar]

That’s going to be a good start!!!! Thank you!!!

I have a seven year old and she keeps me busy but when I get the chance I love a good read.

[EmilyGeiger]

The Eragon series is pretty good, and also there is a German author named Cornelia Funke that has a series that is pretty good (Inkheart and Inkspell) are the names of the books. Both sets are also considered juvenile fiction.

[null and void]

Did you ever encounter “Sherlock Holmes’s War of the Worlds” by Manly & Wade Wellman?

It’s not Great Literature, but it’s a fun read...

[SuziQ]

Our daughter said that the first of the ‘His Dark Materials’ series, “The Golden Compass” is being made into a movie.

[null and void]

Yes. I saw a preview at the OotP screening.

[paltz]

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[PapaBear3625]

There is no reference to Aunt Petunia knowing about dementors. There was no howler to her which said, “Remember my last”.

You can tell that a scene was chopped between the owl delivering the letter and Harry's foster family getting into the car with Petunia looking very upset. I was unhappy at the choppiness of the editing. I think the movie was originally closer to two hours, but the director was ordered to make cuts to bring it to 2:18 to be able to squeeze in more showings/day and increase profits

[PapaBear3625]

I think you haven’t read the books. The HP series isn’t a guideline or reference manual for witchcraft and wizardry. Witchcraft and wizardry are nothing more than plot devices in the books. The stories could easily take place at soccer camp, but they’d be far less inventive.

There are no references to summoning dark powers, demons, etc. The kids at Hogwarts are engaged in studying a technology for making things happen. Looking at it another way, Hogwarts could be looked at as an engineering school