"Shows what one motivated Marine and his rifle can do."
Posted on 07/05/2007 2:27:40 PM PDT by mission9
You probably know the story well: On the 14th of June, 1947, after a powerful thunderstorm in the desert, a rancher, William "Mac" Brazel noticed some strange debris while working on the Foster ranch near Roswell, New Mexico. He does the right thing, what any American would do. He loads some of the debris in his pickup truck, and takes the stuff into town, and shows the sheriff. The Army Air Force is called in, teams of heavy equipment and troops scour the site. A press release is given to the public by Lieutenant Walter Haut, the public relations officer at the Roswell Air base in 1947, and the sensational news is broadcast around the world: The United States military is in possession of a crashed flying saucer....
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That's making the stupid presumption that you're informed of the facts and are in possession of the physical evidence. Carl Sagan is right, but forgets to mention that extraordinary claims and evidence will certainly inspire extraordinary opposition. I have no doubt, nor did Gordon Cooper, for example, that the government has taken such extraordinary measures. For good or bad (I tend to think for good), but extraordinary is as extraordinary does. Sagan's quote is moot.
You ask what I do. I base my conclusions on independent thought and trust my common sense, imagination, and instincts even when they are inconvenient and unpopular. I've done well by myself in trusting my ability to be an original thinker. I figure I'm in good company. Much of the best science in the world has been inspired by imagination and instinct. If I remember correctly, Einstein said as much many times.
I'm impressed that you crunch radio telescope data, but not impressed that you think that covers everything, including the human element. I repeat that Scott Peterson's lawyer would have liked to have had you on the jury.
Well, yes, except this society has been prepared for such an announcement to be an “Oh, goodie!” thing more or less — that these aliens are our friends, that they’re going to “help us save the planet” and presumably help save us from ourselves. I believe that evil is afoot through them and that when humankind is made “officially” aware of them, religion (specifically, Christianity) will be the only salvation, and it will be an ugly, frightening time.
Original thought or instincts are not evidence.
If it leads you to actual evidence. Great.
I look forward to reading about it in Scientific American, National Geographic and every front page of every newspaper on earth.
Then it will have my due attention.
Sorry, won’t wash. The idea is they never appear to anyone who could actually verify their existence, which, if they were real, just by ACCIDENT they would land on the “anthill” of LA or San Antonio or something. They wouldn’t care if they burned a few “ants.”
Actually, in my days as a rock and roll drummer, I swear I met a couple of these aliens backstage after . . . well, never mind.
That statement also speaks volumes about the nature of religions.
"Shows what one motivated Marine and his rifle can do."
...the range was apparently a great deal shorter...
Add a 4 power scope and the range is even less
First hit was at 44 yards and the second hit at 88.
How much does the government pay you every time you post that idiotic pic on such a thread?
Can others sign up for that debunker’s gravy train?
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It should be 60 years, not 50.
You are probably referring to Howard Donohue, who was one of eleven expert marksmen (Maryland state troopers, ballistics-lab employees, Vietnam vets, etc.) who were asked by CBS to participate in an elaborate reenactment of the Kennedy assassination (and “test” of the Warren Commission hypotheses) on a reconstructed set at the H.P. White Ballistics Laboratory in Maryland. Donohue and the eleven participants were given three chances to fire three shots at a moving target dummy in less than 5.7 seconds and score at least two hits. Donohue failed the first two times, and on the third time managed to score three hits in 5.2 seconds. He was the only one of the eleven to beat Oswald’s alleged time of 5.6 seconds with at least two hits.
But you probably don’t want to cite Donohue in support of a lone-assasin theory or a single-bullet theory. In addition to being a gun-shop owner, Donohue was a ballistics expert and serious student of the Kennedy assasination. Donohue believed, until the day he died, that Kennedy was hit by two very different bullets - in the neck with a 6.5 mm bullet consistent with Oswald’s Carcano and in the head with a thin-jacketed .223 cal round consistent with an AR-15.
Donohue’s evidence was written up in the book, Mortal Error by Bonar Menninger. Donohue’s thesis was that the head shot was fired accidentally by a trailing Secret Service agent amidst the chaos and confusion following the first two of Oswald’s shots (one of which hit Kennedy). While subsequent investigations have shown this to be high unlikely, it may that the .223 bullet was fired from a separate rear location.
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