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What is Next on Immigration? (2)
Greg F | 6/9/07 | Greg F

Posted on 06/09/2007 5:36:38 AM PDT by Greg F

I posted this thread yesterday as well. This is a summary of what was posted yesterday (my apologies for not indicating who posted it, too much work!). If I may be so bold, pick something you are not doing and do it . . . and if you have additional ideas or contact numbers or more specific numbers, sites, actions then let us know.

Here's what I got from yesterdays postings:

Press Congress and the Senate to fully fund the fence.

Press the administration to focus on deporting illegal alien criminals with existing agents.

Press the States to sue the Federal government under Article IV of the Constitution guaranteeing a republican form of government and protection against invasion. Section 4: The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

Sign the petition by Duncan Hunter at his campaign website: http://www.gohunter08.com/petition/

The phones should keep ringing telling the bums to enforce our laws.

Put the pressure on the GOP through local/county/state organizations. Make them say UNCLE...SAM, not Ted.

Press Bush to do his constitutional duty at the borders.

Send contributions directly to solid patriotic candidates.

Continue to demand massive deportations.

Press for jail time for employers that hire illegal aliens.

Go through the list of procedural and amendment votes cast by your Congresscritters on this bill and send a note of thanks for each vote that you approve of. (For some, that won’t take long at all!)

If we show some serious backbone, many will self deport. We should have a pretty good indicator how such a program will work as France implements their deportations of illegal aliens with a goal of 25k per week.

I favor an amendment revoking automatic citizenship for children born on US soil. The child should assume the nationality of the mother. This will stop border crossing babies and reduce the split family problem.

Or, as a summary of much of the above: We need to push a NEW bill called "FEDS." 1) FENCE (build it) 2) ENFORCE (the law) 3) DEPORT (as many as possible) 4) SANCTION (all employers who violate the law)

Kill McCain’s presidential campaign.

The 7 Senators and John Kyl should be constantly reminded that we are going to work hard to defeat them in their next Primary.

Stay alert and active with organizations like fairus.org and alipac.org

Support the Border Patrol


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1 posted on 06/09/2007 5:36:42 AM PDT by Greg F
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To: Greg F

And a couple specific ones just posted that I missed:

MARCH FOR AMERICA, which is next weekend, Flag Day —every Freeper would make a committment to participate in their home State. Make a VISUAL statement! There are rallies planned in the following State Capitols:
Arizona
California
Florida
Georgia
Indiana
Illinois
Kansas
Michigan
Minnesota
Nebraska
Nevada
Ohio
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Washington

Also, check out:
CITIZENS (OF PENNSYLVANIA)
FOR
IMMIGRATION CONTROL & ENFORCEMENT
http://www.c4ice.com/

New Yorkers for Immigration Control and Enforcement
http://www.nyice.us/

lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)

Contribute to Jon Bruning who has declared that he is running against Hagel in the 2008 primary.

Encourage primry challengers for Lindsay Graham, who is up for reelection in 2008.

I don’t know much about the organization, but Americans for Legal Immigration (ALIPAC) is setting its sights on some of the more vulnerable congressmen, like Graham, and searching for challengers to them.

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2190

If anyone knows of a good, reputable group that gets results, please let us know!


2 posted on 06/09/2007 5:42:51 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: Greg F

bttt


3 posted on 06/09/2007 5:46:24 AM PDT by Guenevere (Duncan Hunter for President, 2008!!)
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To: Greg F
Press Congress and the Senate to fully fund the fence.

My letter to Sen Specter (coauthor of the "Grand Bargain for Illegals"):

If you vote for this immigration bill, I will support your opposition in the primary. If you succeed in winning the party's nomination, I will vote for the Democrat regardless of who it is.

(Scorched Earth Approach)
4 posted on 06/09/2007 5:47:17 AM PDT by etradervic (Any Conservative in 2008)
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To: Greg F

Bush is gonna’ go for broke next week on this... look for another hastily crafted bill followed by more of the same, phony guarantees.


5 posted on 06/09/2007 5:49:17 AM PDT by johnny7 ("But that one on the far left... he had crazy eyes")
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To: Greg F
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Least we forget how all this got done, Kill the HR 3302

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1827798/posts

Without open commentary on "talk radio" we would have 30 million new welfare cases just waiting to buy mome and popie, Uncle Julio and the rest bus tickets north so we can have 120 million in the new peasant class.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_Doctrine
As of early 2007, Senator Bernie Sanders (I-VT), along with Representatives Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), Maurice Hinchey (D-NY), and Louise Slaughter (D-NY) have announced their support of legislation which would reverse the 1987 FCC decision and restore the Fairness Doctrine.[4][5]

It has been routinely criticized by conservatives in the media as a means of keeping their views from being expressed or of deliberately cutting their available air time in half.[6]

6 posted on 06/09/2007 5:50:13 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Greg F

What’s next for immigration? Complaints, protests, insults and threats against Bush by “The Base”. No blame on congress, which writes these bills. In other words, same ol’, same ol’.


7 posted on 06/09/2007 5:50:37 AM PDT by cake_crumb (May I never live to see the day America has a 'popular war'. God bless our troops.)
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To: Greg F
1-202-224-3121

8 posted on 06/09/2007 5:51:04 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (Speaker Pelosi - Three cheers for Amnesty!)
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To: Greg F
Kill the HR 3302

That would be the "Fairness Doctrine"

9 posted on 06/09/2007 5:51:50 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Greg F

Launch recall efforts for all Senators who keep pushing this sorry bill.


10 posted on 06/09/2007 5:52:19 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (THOMPSON NEEDS TO CLARIFY HIS POSITION ON THE SPP BEFORE I SUPPORT HIM.)
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To: johnny7

I know. I can’t look at Bush as anything any more other than as part and parcel of an establishment that is working against the American people. I think the most interesting idea that was posted was the idea of a State bringing suit under Article IV against the Federal Government. An aggressive, conservative Attorney General could establish a national reputation with the law suit and set himself up for a run at Governor or Senate.


11 posted on 06/09/2007 5:54:13 AM PDT by Greg F (<><)
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To: cake_crumb
No blame on congress, which writes these bills. In other words, same ol’, same ol’.

What??? Bush right now is telling congress to ressurect the POS! Why should Bush get the blame, he's pushing this crap?

12 posted on 06/09/2007 5:54:47 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: Greg F
1 focus on deporting illegal alien criminals with existing agents.
2 Continue to demand massive deportations.
3 Press for jail time for employers that hire illegal aliens.

If you do #3 first, you won't have to do # 2. They will either leave themselves or come legally

# 1 should be on ongoing since day one and in fact is the real problem in the first place

13 posted on 06/09/2007 5:56:59 AM PDT by Popman (New American Dream: Move to Mexican, cross the border, become an illegal. free everything)
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To: Greg F

The illegals have their own protest planned:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18572433/


14 posted on 06/09/2007 5:57:08 AM PDT by Andy'smom
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To: Greg F
The GOP needs to start demanding impeachment of Jorge .
This bill will kill this party with 20 million new Dem voters.
He has betrayed this country and intentionally left our border wide open for his buddy Fox in Mexico !Radical left wing La Raza and evil George Soros are the makers of this BILL fro crying out loud . Impeach this dangerous fool
15 posted on 06/09/2007 5:57:16 AM PDT by BurtSB (the price of freedom is eternal vigilance)
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To: johnny7
Bush is gonna’ go for broke next week on this... look for another hastily crafted bill followed by more of the same, phony guarantees.

The games is afoot and it is for keeps what with the end of the Bush Administration and the "go for broke" libs jumping out of the "RINO" closets.

Take nothing for granted, ESPECIALLY statements like "we will not try to pass immigration reform this year" bs. If we hear that one look out for the distraction because about two weeks later they will announce "We are nearing completion of a bill" and they will be "very optimistic."

Bastards.

16 posted on 06/09/2007 5:59:18 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Greg F

“If we show some serious backbone, many will self deport.”

Self deportation is the key in my opinion. Enforcement of existing laws will reduce the overall problem substantially.

Reduce the problem before you try to deal with it in other ways...


17 posted on 06/09/2007 6:02:11 AM PDT by vietvet67
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To: sirchtruth
What??? Bush right now is telling congress to ressurect the POS!

Their must be a VERY large chunk of the President's butt on the line somewhere that is riding on this.

If the Bill trully dies, look for an Executive Order before he checks out of Motel 1600.

18 posted on 06/09/2007 6:02:49 AM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: Greg F

Thanks for the info about Hunter’s petition,I didn’t know about it.No question we need an amendment dealing with the anchor baby issue.It doesn’t have to be draconian, just sensible !!!


19 posted on 06/09/2007 6:03:17 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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To: Greg F
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Oh yeah!
We need to push a NEW bill called "FEDS." 1) FENCE (build it) 2) ENFORCE (the law) 3) DEPORT (as many as possible) 4) SANCTION (all employers who violate the law)
While the 4 things you mention need to be done you're doing the same the the current group of twits is doing...bundling!
One thing at a time! Build the fence. When that is DONE, and only then, move on to steps 2-4. These are individual steps, not a bunch of steps that can be lumped together. There is no expectation of any of them getting done if they're all passed at the same time. IMO that's one of the problems with the bill now...too much at one time.
As masters of incrementalism you would think that such a thing would be a natural for Democrats. Perhaps it's just an "issue specific" thing and illegal immigration isn't as "issue specific" as say gun control.
20 posted on 06/09/2007 6:03:27 AM PDT by philman_36
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