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To: Candor7
I live in NH. I agree with your assessment. The Union Leader, ran a history of Floyd. He is a rouge, law breaker, and it appears to me as anti social. The UL quoted him as saying “I don’t miss” I'm a former cop, we did not have dash cams, and I doubt DCs rotate on their own. I doubt the cruiser had front and rear dash cams, but it may be equipped with a mic for audio pickup.

There are many who post on this thread who have no idea what LE work is about. They range from ignorant to having a true desire to understand what happened. One of my big questions is why McKay was not wearing vest. It does not fault him for getting killed, but it may have sustained his life until the EMTs could work on, and save him.

We must wait for the official results from the AG.

129 posted on 05/16/2007 4:24:33 AM PDT by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: tiger-one
When I was in law school ( Canada) in 1975, I spent the summer working with a municiple police department that had about 60 officers, including detectives and forensics specialists. I was rotated through all the various functions, and was partnered with several career veterans. I have been in high speed chases, hauled dead people out of windows of burning bubildings, and attnede murder and suicide scenes. I have seen K-9s enter wharehouses and capture burglers, and I must say, that was probably the most fun I have seen, and back to back with my partner, duked it out with 5 brothers and threw them all into the paddy wagon we had. I have so many stories from that summer I could write a book.

For 5 months I worked and lived as an officer. I was offered a job at the end of that summer, but returned to law school.

I have the greatest respect for law enforcement officers. I also learned the basics of being able to know a good fully engaged officer from one that is lax, or occasionally lax.

I did not know Bruce McKay personally. But I have very close friends in the medical field who had attended emergency response training with Bruce. They thought Bruce was a consummate professional who put on professional demeanor with his uniform. Off duty he was a good neighbor, and a fine father who loved the outdoors and brought his daughter up in it. He did his job well and was promoted for it to the rank of corporal. That means the Franconia police department saw Bruce as a keeper.

The other problem that no one has mentioned is that Franconia does not have a large police department. Most of the time there would only be one officer on duty except maybe on weekends, with a joint fire/police/ambulance dispatcher.

That means there likely would not have been another Franconia Officer on duty to call without calling in an officer who was on his rest shift.Small towns often compliment each other when backup is required, but that is an optional call on the part of off scene adjacent town officers.

Many small towns, such as mine, do not have a police department, and rely on the State Police. After 4 in the afternoon, it can take from 2 to 3 hours for a state police officer to respond to a call. So most citizens are quite prepared to look after themselves or to help police if necessary. It is in this context that Greg Floyd stepped up. I believe he is a hero who exercised good, proper judgement. And there are many more like him here in Northeast Vermont and New Hampshire, many of them conceal carry like I do, just to be of help if necessary.

I can also say that many small towns do not have kevlar vests, or do not require them being worn. That was a significant oversight here but I am not sure whether the responsibility for it rests with the department or Bruce himself.

130 posted on 05/16/2007 5:09:00 AM PDT by Candor7
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To: tiger-one
ran a history of Floyd. He is a rouge, law breaker, and it appears to me as anti social.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You are right. Up here we have many military veterans who have been mentally and/or physically wounded by their service in the military. Many are anti-social, and have perimeters established around their homes with fields of fire. They raise their families and otherwise are good citizens who value their privacy and fair treatment by civil authority. Floyd is a tough guy and a shooter , like many. He has had run ins with authority, but no prosecutions of which I am aware. Liberal press and drive by media will continue to defame him, and to reconstruct Lito as a local Robin Hood, far from the truth, who had little or no regard for the wider community, which he failed to understand.

Having men like Floyd is the price we pay for having an effective standing military. Most I have met, I like and respect. I have met many like Floyd, they often attend our local shooting range. With most I have developed a liking relationship of mutual good fellowship. Some do not want friends, and I accept that. I do not know Floyd, but chances are, we would become good friends if I did.

131 posted on 05/16/2007 5:31:51 AM PDT by Candor7
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