Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

To: TheSpottedOwl

At first I thought, and still do, that Anna and/or Howard supplied one or more of the drugs found in Daniel, especially the methadone, either accidentally or terribly naively. I do believe Anna felt a lot of guilt, but until we know more from the inquest, I’m still going with it as a tragic accident. A stupid accident. After hearing some of the things we have heard that Daniel may have been dabbling on his own, I can’t rule that out, either.
No, I don’t think Don Hogan was railroaded. Seems he wasn’t such a great husband/father/man in his younger years and Virgie trying to keep Anna away from him could also have further hurt their own relationship.


7,229 posted on 04/21/2007 8:23:46 PM PDT by tabor
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7206 | View Replies ]


To: tabor
I do believe Anna felt a lot of guilt

- it would have to be instilled guilt IMO We have a case of either one drug user (anna) two drug users (anna/stern) or three drug users (anna/stern/daniel). In Hollywood, FL, for four days, anna didn't have methadone wth her - could she also have Not had it with her during the time she was in the hospital? It doesn't seem unreasonable considering the Shelleys' testimony that Anna was relatively drug free thru the time they moved her to the Bahamas.

True, "Daniel accidently got the 'wrong' drink", is a valid question. As is who fixed that drink. But it shouldn't overshadow the question of, where did the pills in the bed/pocket come from and why were they there?

. And I won't agree with you that Daniel was a drug user. Only one surce of a quote saying he saw (Knew?) Daniel do drugs; Stern has been mute on the issue, And Anna exhibited extreme surprise at the autopsy results - that is why, she hired Wecht; Since Larry and Stern Currently Appear as sympathetic to each other, we cancel that testimony, and consider three geographically separate sources that colaborate that Daniel was a Not a methadone/drug user -the Grandmother, Daniel's Godmother, and, it's rumored, Martino. And then we add his own mother's testimony. that's four people that say he didn't.

If the pills were in Daniel's pocket during flight, why? Daniel was aspiring producer, considering the military..at 20 he'd be aware of the consequences of possession of illegal narcotics and the impact on his career and college grant eligibility. Would he risk blowing that?

- If we accept that Daniel didn't travel with drugs, WE can reasonably assume that if methadone was in the hospital room, we'd have some sort of 'duffel bag' or zip-purse, that could be hidden from the nursing staff and Daniel would have to find that without Stern or Anna seeing him.

If we accept Daniel didn't travel with drugs, and there were NO drugs at the hospital, then the only place Daniel could have obtained methadone from was the Horizons'.

doesn't make sense moment: Daniel was flying in for a permanent stay. Why would he put pills in his pocket frm the house, 'for later' when he knew he was returning to the home in a few hours anyway, and there was little supervision there? why get looped in a hospital room when he hadn't seen his mother in several months and had a new baby sister to play with and cuddle,(think Larry) when he could get looped any day of the week during the next week ?

Larry has been quoted recently that even though he and Anna were 'estranged', they still communicated by phone and emails around the time of the birth. if I were investigating, I'd like to learn more about phone/text/emails from Anna as to what she said to him about Daniel's death. Did she talk about 'sippy cups'? did she worry where the pills came from? I''d want to see about any emails/text/phone between he and Daniel, i.e., when was the last time he saw Daniel? what was the nature of their relationship in the five months prior when Daniel was in L.A. and Anna was in the Bahamas? Did Daniel approve of the sole custody suit being pursued against his mother? i.e, were they alienated? anything about Stern or Eroshevic? IMO those records alone could potentially be valuable to a case against [someone]

Anna could have a lot of guilt, but it would be of a different type, if there were no 'sippy cup' cocktails, and no drugs in the hospital. If there was no way for Daniel to have logically obtained PILLS in his pockets - her guilt would have been of a mother who couldn't protect her son from [someone] responsible for those pills being found on daniel's person/bed.

the loose pieces are -

a) origin of the otc medications

b) why Daniel's jeans were not included with the other garments in the ME 'envelope'?

7,281 posted on 04/22/2007 2:27:29 AM PDT by blueplum ([IC - ICE -(ice bath)])
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7229 | View Replies ]

To: tabor

If Don Hogan was the kind of man Virgie said he was, she must have been infuriated that Anna looked him up. Not that I blame her. I don’t blame Anna for being curious, though. Human nature and all that.

One person is an accident, two people dying of the same thing within 5 months? I just don’t know. The courts can rule both “accidental”, but that doesn’t mean the ruling is the truthful one. From what I understand, Daniel was a straight arrow. He didn’t do recreational drugs.


7,314 posted on 04/22/2007 6:06:13 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Head Caterer for the FIRM)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7229 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson