[fluffytoo]

OQ on court tv just said that Virgie only wants PARTIAL guardianship - she wants her name on a document stating she has some role as partial guardian.

I think that is so sad. She is the grandmother and entitled to normal and natural access to her granddaughter. Howard is manipulating the normal and natural otherwise. What a freak! But it's even freakier that people are buying into his twisted view of reality. So reigns the psycho.

[Sacajaweau]

Grandmothers go to court everyday in thesae matters.