[Sacajaweau]

If she was in a lot of pain from the abcess and wasn't getting relief, there's no way she would have refused to go to the hospital UNLESS "she was not of sound mind".

As far as Moe's statement. KE was right there (YES??). She put his "old fashioned ice bath story" into Moe's mind....That's where he learned it...not from Grandma.

I don't think Moe even mentioned KE in ANY of the early interviews. Best guess: Howard told him what to say when he got to the hospital later in the day.

[roses of sharon]

Yes, no way would something that painful be tolerated by Anna, no way. She must have had something for the pain, and they were all hoping that the antibiotics would do the trick?

I could see maybe one person thinking that, but numerous people all nurses and a Dr, ALL sitting back and doing nothing? She was just in the hospital for pneumonia in the Bahamas, maybe they didn't want a US hospital because of custody issues?

I can imagine no rationalization for this behavior, why risk her life? Why?