Remember we had that discussion about when Anna had that 105 temp - because Bonnie Stern (Stern mouthpiece who wasn't there) said that Anna had the temp on WED not on MONDAY. At that time I thought she was putting out the Wed 105 temp in order to push the pneumonia, infection theory as Stern wanted put out. But all the others said Monday 105 temp. Said she was better Tuesday and Wednesday. Said she was eating.
So this 105 temp on Thursday makes no sense at all.
Either Liz is right and Perper is a dodo....just saying the temp that he heard thrown around by the "eyewitnesses" about Anna having that temp that week - OR - Anna had that 105 temp that day, not Monday. And they probably iced her down that day, not Monday. And all of them were lying about that day!(we already know that)
"But as I said initially the temperature was 105 degrees and my understanding is that it was lower there after"
SO I take that to mean, he was TOLD that at some time, her temp was 105 degrees, and he was TOLD her temp. was lower..there after.
He didn't really go into what days he was talking about.
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GRACE: Joining us right now is the expert in his field, Dr. Joshua Perper. He is a chief medical examiner in Broward County. He is a published author of "When to Call the Doctor." And he performed the autopsy on cover girl Anna Nicole Smith.
Dr. Perper, thank you for being with us.
DR. JOSHUA PERPER, BROWARD COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER: You`re very welcome.
GRACE: Dr. Perper, is there any truth to the allegations that she had so much methadone in her skin and Demerol, as well?
PERPER: As I said before, I`m not going to comment on any kind of type of findings, which would be toxicological or otherwise. And I believe that there`s a great deal of speculation which doesn`t have roots in fact.
GRACE: Dr. Perper, what is the difference between the pronounced time of death and the clinical time of death?
PERPER: The clinical time of death is when the person stops breathing and the heart stops. And the irreversible type of death is when resuscitation matters or attempts are unsuccessful. And forensic pathologists are able to make a determination based on postmortem findings what time occurred or lapsed since the death.
In this particular case, the death occurred within a very short time because the body was warm and, obviously, there were resuscitation attempts made which otherwise they wouldn`t have been made.
GRACE: Dr. Perper, you and I were talking on a previous night regarding the fact that she was inside her hotel room there at the casino under the covers in her bed where she had been sleeping. How much would the body temperature lower as she died under those circumstances? It`s not as if she were out in the elements.
PERPER: Well, again, this is information which I`m going to release later on. But as I said initially, the temperature was 105 degrees, and my understanding is that it was lower thereafter.
GRACE: Dr. Perper, is it true that methadone is retained in the skin?
PERPER: Methadone can be taken by mouth or it can be injected.
GRACE: OK.
PERPER: There are a variety of -- it can be taken by enema. So there are a variety of ways in which somebody can take methadone.
GRACE: So to you, David Caplan, what do you mean by Anna Nicole`s body tissue was overloaded with the opiate substance methadone?
CAPLAN: Well, our sources told us that the methadone was still sort of in her body tissue after her death, and that it was very evident there were large doses of methadone in there. It was still present in her system, traces of it.
GRACE: And Dr. Joshua Perper, I know that, for instance, you can take a hair sample days later and determine whether or not drugs have been used. Is that true with skin tissue?
PERPER: It can be determined whether she used Demerol days prior to death or not. Demerol can be found still in the body, and it can be detected in the hair. But it`s irrelevant to the cause and manner of death. In other words, the fact that somebody took Demerol doesn`t mean that she died of Demerol. Somebody took methadone in the hair, the presence in the hair doesn`t indicate that she died -- this is in general. I`m not addressing this case. Just to say that the presence in the hair is irrelevant as to the cause of death.
GRACE: Dr. Perper, if she had been taking methadone and someone gave her Demerol or she self-injected Demerol, I guess that could result in an overdose. I never considered the combination of methadone and Demerol.
PERPER: As a general statement, a person can die of combined drug intoxication if more than one drug is taken at the time. And, as a matter of fact, we see often people who die of a combination of drugs. That`s not unusual. Whether this happened in this case, that`s another question.