Anna Nicole Smith, The Investigation

[Rte66]

Yeah, I remember that. Ford & Gina had been there at some point, tho, too. *see your sister?*

[blueplum]

yes, 1-1:30ish, sorry !

ok, if it was thompson or shelley then I don't think they had anything to do with it

a lot has been bantered about them, helping Anna to get away from 'larry" but I have a feeling they wanted to help her get away from Stern and was surprised when he moved in. I recall Mrs. Shelley stating that Anna was fine until Stern showed up in So.Carolina (Keywest?) and then they had to 'go thru Stern' to even approach Anna

[TrishaSC]

I'm sure they didn't like Stern but in that video Ford Shelly says that they were helping to get her away from Larry. Which is odd because Larry is supposedly a family friend. Since her death they have changed their tone but I still think there's more to them that meets the eye. I wish they would address it. Knowing Anna she may have led them to believe that Larry was hitting her and was a control freak (HELLO HKS!!!). I think they are good people but like I said I do think there's more than meets the eye.

I did have to chuckle when Ford Shelly was talking to Anna on the intercom and he was getting riled up and did that "neck roll". I thought "girlfriend" was going to throw down..lol.

Blueplum I enjoy reading your posts. It's great knowing that more and more ppl are paying attention to this thread.

[blueplum]

In October of 1994, Stern represented Smith in a lawsuit against New York magazine.
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Chronology:

Nov 92 - signs 3-yr contract with Guess? Jeans - invents Anna Nicole as model name
May 93 - playboy again, also named Playmate of the Year

2/12/94 - hospitalized for three days after mixing rx and alcohol and collapsing at Bev Hills hotel

1994 - an $830,000 sexual harassment suit brought in 1994 by her former nanny, Maria Antonia Cerrato. The case was later settled. Cerrato was hired to take care of Anna Nicole's son, Daniel

6/27/94 - marries J. Howard Marshall

6/27/94 - Anna leaves wedding for modeling shoot for H&M (german? swiss? clothing line)

Nov 95 - ANS hospitalized for six days following what her 'spokesman' calls an 'adverse reaction to rx medication'

Virgie drives her to Rehab at Betty Ford in '95

95/96 - ANS makes video interview states she will never abuse drugs again after being in drug=caused coma and havng to 'learn to walk again'


from former manager/discoverer for guess jeans about anna:

GRACE:
Do you know what caused the falling out?

REDDING:
To be honest, Howard Stern. I mean, the last few years, Howard didn`t want Anna to have anything to do with her past friends or past family.

GRACE:
How do you think that happened?

REDDING:
Just, you know, Howard wanted her to move up to another level, and everyone kept wanting things from Anna. And I think Howard just decided to cut everybody off and have her start fresh. That was his opinion; that`s what he thought he could do.


Jan 96 - marshall falls ill and dies Aug 4 of pneumonia at 90
Feb 96 - ANS files for bankruptcy in Calif court




so......Stern was around before Anna wound up od'd the first time? in 1994? and Stern was around when Anna od'd the second time? Nov 1995? Holy Hannah! Enough Drugs to OD on sure seem to follow Stern around, don't they?

and so does Anna not having any money! she had to have made a MINT during that time between Marshall and GUess? and Playboy, not to mention H&M - where did the money go? the interest alone on, say, 4 million would have been several hundred thousand a year, yes? (not a math major) didn't Stern go on record that he was her 'money manager' all these years??

[Rte66]

Yup - I think she probably made up some mean BS about Larry and they believed it. That's doubly bad if it's true their families were/are friends.

So much train wreckage left in her wake.

[TrishaSC]

I think so too! On Greta they showed a picture I'd never seen before and it was G. Ben, Dannielynn, and Anna. It looked to be the same day that Daniel arrived.

[Rte66]

No, the 1994 date for Stern is wrong.

[TennesseeGirl]

"Yup - I think she probably made up some mean BS about Larry and they believed it.

Agreed. My husband's niece is like this. Niece lie #1 afraid of husband because he keeps guns (note: nothing new -- he's a gun collector). Actually, she was having an affair. Her husband moved out on a Thursday, boyfriend moved in 4 days later. Niece lie #2 Boyfriend is crazy jealous and accusing her of cheating on him (note: she was cheating on him -- after he moved out the new man moved in in 2 days later. By the way the new man is/was married). Niece lie #3 New boyfriend is crazy and taking medicine and is paranoid. She moves out. She moved back in with him in less than a month and has lived with him for two years while he married to someone else. He finally got a divorce last December. Everyone else is the villian except the niece. She's the nutcase.

[blueplum]

Thanks!

wasn't that picture great? Anna was so dern happy.....she'd found the Thommpsons/Shelleys (NORMALLLL friends), had her son allegedly coming to stay and go to school..had reestablished her friendship with the Gibsons forged when she was in the Bahamas before with Nyant (sp?), had a new baby girl....a movie coming out in a few months... and Stern was on the wayyyyy out the door...
(sigh...)

[ltd60]

That's cool. too many posts for this old lady to go over.
i will butt out, thanks for the reading.

[msgumshoe]

Howard Stern was her attorney and spokesperson during this period and was among her entourage when she modeled for Lane Bryant in New York. The Anna Nicole biography "Great Big Beautiful Doll" talks about this trip and ANS's unhappiness with being upstaged by headliner KISS and the hotel's failure to have sufficient flowers and chocolates in her room upon arrival. She sent one of her group to find pickles for her while she pouted.

HKS was on full time Anna patrol at this time...what I would love to find out is exactly when and how he made contact with her for the first time...

I have read it was soon after Marshall died but he and his sister claim it was in 1996. Vergie also mentioned 1996 in her testimony in the hearing in Florida. I think he showed or made contact between the death of Marshall in August 1995 and her OD in November of 1995.

By the way... I have been lurking for awhile on this thread and finally decided to register so I could comment on the few things that I have knowledge of.

This is one of the best ongoing discussions on ANS on the web.

[mom4kittys]

Great screen name! Welcome.

[Rte66]

Oh no, please don't. I was just making a comment, because it has been an ongoing sore spot about the 1994 date. HKS says 1996 and I said 1996 from my checking, so I'm going with 1996. That's all - no need to butt out!

[sodpoodle]

"""""Among the entries was Smith discussing her husband, elderly Texas oil tycoon J. Howard Marshall II, whom she married in 1994 and who died the next year.

"It was a okay day," she wrote of June 11, 1992. "I had lunch with Howard. Someone ran over my cat yesterday. I was real sad." """"

According to her diary she had lunch with Howard in 1992!!! Supposing this is HK$.

[TrishaSC]

Am I the only one surprised that Anna/Vicki Lynn even kept a diary? I wish I could keep one but I don't have the patience for it. I start but never keep it up. I think she's referring to Old Man Marshall. If it can be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she met Stern prior to when they said I think that would bolster the argument that something shady went down in the hospital and that hotel room.

[sodpoodle]

Am I the only one surprised that Anna/Vicki Lynn even kept a diary?

Add me to the list.

For those of us who did keep diaries, seems like we did it in our early teens, when you were stuck in the house at night. Mine was full of codes about the cute guys I liked...when they spoke to me, what they said and other secret thoughts (blush).

In late teens when parents permitted dates and a lot more activities, there was no time for diaries.

Perhaps Anna had a lot of free time on her hands, no friends or family to share her weird life with, (only Daniel)so she kept the diary.

Don't know - would be interesting to read more entries.

[scoobeedoo]

A little birdie told me:
Maybe someone can look into this? Is there an connection with this CRACKER COMPANY? Who is this Sean Gallagher? Was he in the courtroom in Fla? Someone told me this might be important. What do any of you think?

LP/LLC - California
CRACKER COMPANY, LLC, THE
Number: 199706610024 Date Filed: 3/7/1997 Status: active
Jurisdiction: CALIFORNIA
Address
11812 SAN VICENTE BLVD
LOS ANGELES, CA 90049
Agent for Service of Process
SEAN GALLAGHER
11812 SAN VICENTE BLVD
LOS ANGELES, CA 90049

Name Status Number City Admission Date
Gallagher, Sean Fleming Active 150369 Redwood City Dec 90
Gallagher, Sean H Active 154781 San Francisco December 91
Gallagher, Sean James Inactive 207913 Derwood June 2000
Gallagher, Sean Joseph Active 183153 Oro Valley June 1996
Gallagher, Sean Michael Resigned 92173 Waikoloa May 1980