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Oh...well gosh. You've found stuff to read. That was my mistake right there. I've actually tried it. If I ever get lobotomized, I plan on quitting my technology job to become a technology journalist so that I too can give bad advice stuff I don't understand. I'll have a good audience too, mainly from Mac users who for some reason are in constant need of affirmation.

I mean, why else would Mac users provide "expert" analysis of products they don't use? Why not just extoll the virtues of your favorite products instead of trying to destroy the competition? Doesn't competition ensure better products for all of us? Instead, we get the technology equivalent of a Democrat political campaign.

Every day, there is some anti-Vista or anti-Microsoft rant posted by some Mac-head. You people are like a cult; despite my efforts to believe otherwise the conclusion is inescapable.

I have a Mac. A PowerBook G4 running Tiger. It's a neat piece of hardware, but I find the OS not to my liking. That doesn't make it bad - just not for me. I respect the fact that people have preferences different from me, which is quite a different attitude from the Free Republic Mac-Pac.

That was my mistake right there. I've actually tried it.

Well good for you, Doohickey. But I am surprised at the depth of your testing facilities... you have examples of every piece of hardware that Vista will have to support and have tested them and found they work quite well. GREAT! Wonderful

It is amazing, however, that you find ways to make hardware work that the manufacturers of that hardware say they are "scrambling" to get drivers out for. Yet you, doohickey, know better than the majority of PC punditry because you have tried Vista on your vast collection of hardware in your closet. And you haven't been "lobotomized".

Every day, there is some anti-Vista or anti-Microsoft rant posted by some Mac-head. You people are like a cult; despite my efforts to believe otherwise the conclusion is inescapable.

Now you descend to the refuge of the person who cannot refute the facts as presented: ad hominem attack.

Not sure what your beef is- you tried to flame me for posting that Vista has lack of driver support. I personally found that to be the case, and I've found other reviewers who have said the same thing. (You were rather overboard by calling my observation: "crap"), Instead of being gracious with your reply, I'm somehow a member of a cult? I guess I must have touched a nerve when I suggested that I was insulting your religion. Your reactions seem rather like zealotry to me.

I've been developing on the Mac since 1984, as well as being a Microsoft Gold Certified Partner. I let the Gold Certification lapse a couple of months ago only because I was not impressed with Vista. The good stuff had been pruned out of it. As for OS X, when it first came out, I just didn't like it. Too many security holes, too much was incomplete. I found that I needed to boot into Classic more than I used OS X.

I have several intel Macs, several PCs. My favorite flavor of Linux is SuSe, but SuSe is not ready for prime time in my opinion. Only now, when I use the iMac, have XP installed with OS X. I haven't had to touch Classic in a couple of years, I don't need XP any more. Its there, but after working on the Mac, XP and the Microsoft intrusiveness irritates me. I get more work done on the Mac.

Will it always be that way? I have no idea. Will I ever bother to buy a machine with Vista on it? Who knows. After looking at earlier betas, I don't have the need to even try. There is no new technological advancement in Vista that justifies its bloated foot print.