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To: MrsEmmaPeel
Don't forget that Vista has very limited driver support.

It's quite okay to prefer your Mac, but it's not okay to just make crap up. I've installed Vista on everything from an old 1.8GHz P4 to a new Core2Duo. I've yet to not find a driver for any of my printers, scanners or cameras or system devices.

And besides, can I grab some old hardware out of my closet and install OSX on it? Seems like you've set the bar a lot higher for Vista.

47 posted on 01/28/2007 9:13:41 AM PST by Doohickey (I am not unappeasable. YOU are just too easily appeased.)
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To: Doohickey
And besides, can I grab some old hardware out of my closet and install OSX on it?

Very likely, you can. My mother has a nine year old Powermac G3 that she's running OS X on. I did upgrade the five year old video card in the machine and put in a large, modern hard drive but it is running OS X quite happily. Neither Windows XP SP 2 nor Vista will run happily on nine year old hardware - assuming it will even boot. When people say that Macs have a much greater useful life when compared to their Windows counterparts, they aren't kidding.
49 posted on 01/28/2007 9:21:15 AM PST by Old_Mil (http://www.gohunter08.com/)
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To: Doohickey
Got all my drivers working without problems or "fixes", (although Vista 64bit requires you to have signed drivers "even for some programs that you think are just programs like utilities to monitor your computer and such", this can be gotten around though with a little bit of tweaking) ;)

The maker of speedfan monitoring utility is going through the process of getting signed drivers for 64bit Vista (speedfan.sys)...

50 posted on 01/28/2007 9:23:02 AM PST by Echo Talon
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To: Doohickey
It's quite okay to prefer your Mac, but it's not okay to just make crap up.

I didn't know I was insulting your religion. For your reading pleasure, here are the experiences of other Vista reviewers (topic: lack of driver support).

From: 10 Reasons NOT to get Vista

Reason 5:
-- Key hardware like video and sound is crippled at the moment -- while Nvidia is working furiously to get a stable driver for the 8800 out by the 30th, there's still no SLI support for any of the Nvidia range. And thanks to the removal of hardware accelerated 3D sound in Vista, Creative's popular DirectSound based EAX no longer works at all, muting this feature for just about all gaming titles on the market today. Creative is in the process of coding a layer for its drivers to translate EAX calls to the OpenAL API which is seperate from Vista, but going by past experience with Creative drivers we won't see these any time soon.

From: Uninspiring Vista by Erika Jonietz

Second, users choosing to install the 64-bit version of Vista on computers they already own will have a hard time finding drivers, the software needed to control hardware sub­systems and peripherals such as video cards, modems, or printers. Microsoft's Windows Vista Upgrade Advisor program, which I ran before installing Vista, assured me that my laptop was fully compatible with the 64-bit version. But once I installed it, my speakers would not work. It seems that none of the companies concerned had written a driver for my sound card; it took more than 10 hours of effort to find a workaround. Nor do drivers exist for my modem, printer, or several other things I rely on.
55 posted on 01/28/2007 10:10:11 AM PST by MrsEmmaPeel
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To: Doohickey
And besides, can I grab some old hardware out of my closet and install OSX on it? Seems like you've set the bar a lot higher for Vista.

OS X will run on any Mac made since the release of the first 233MHz iMac back in May of 1998... slowly, but it will run.

It ran quite nicely on my 1999 PowerBook Lombard (333MHz, 384M ram, 10G HD... until someone stole it last month.

I wouldn't install OS X.4 Tiger on either without putting in a larger hard drive but OS X.2.8 (Jaguar) runs fine on the 233 iMac and the laptop ran fine on 10.3.9 (Panther).

OS X.2.8 also runs quite nicely on a Beige 233MHz G3 tower introduced in November of 1997 so long as the Ram is above 128 Megabytes.

Is that sufficiently old?

58 posted on 01/28/2007 12:27:13 PM PST by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!)
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