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Girl, 10, was killed trying to help dog
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 14 January 2007 | Michelle Mondo

Posted on 01/14/2007 5:00:17 AM PST by Racehorse

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To: kanawa
You'd think someone would get a clue.. How many stats are there on canine isolation and chaining in relation to fatal attacks? How many about unsupervised children with chained dogs and fatal attack? (In addition to those stats this dog was hung on the fence and probably wild with fear.)

Sorry, Kanawa, but I am starting to believe human beings are too stupid to own animals. Of any kind. And while I feel for these parents their child should never have went anywhere near that dog at ANY time. The police should have been called the first time he tried jumping the fence, IMO. Truly an avoidable tragedy.

81 posted on 01/14/2007 8:51:33 AM PST by ARridgerunner
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To: definitelynotaliberal

Shame on you. You hateful jerk.


82 posted on 01/14/2007 8:54:14 AM PST by spacejunkie
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To: johniegrad

The owner of the dog should kill it.


83 posted on 01/14/2007 8:55:03 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: raybbr

I love it when pit bull owners defend the breed as just another dog.


84 posted on 01/14/2007 8:55:57 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: raybbr

I love it when pit bull owners defend the breed as just another dog.


85 posted on 01/14/2007 8:56:00 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: piasa

Oh please, don't you know that some dogs are just born bad? I had a Jack Russell Terrier that could not have been more socialize or trained or treated better by me and he was bad to the bone. He came from bad dogs and I couldn't change him. I finally put him down when he was 14 because he went insane.


86 posted on 01/14/2007 8:58:57 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

I do not endorse what you have proposed. Nor do I encourage or endorse the theoretical actions described below.

But, from a strictly theoretical standpoint;

If a dog were shot and the body disappeared who would know.

Also, if the shot were taken from inside the house, the sound would not travel near as far.

If the bullet were in the dog's body, and it was recovered, there would be evidence against the rifle.

There are better ways than a firearm to kill a dog. Firearms are uniquely suited to self-defense and not good for committing "criminal" acts.

Of course you could always entice the pit bull to come close to you, and shoot it up close and personal. You could plead that it attacked you. Who would testify against you?


87 posted on 01/14/2007 9:03:47 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: Racehorse
The neighbor fixed the problem by erecting an eight foot wooden privacy fence.

Good for them!
I've heard more than one anecdote on these threads about owners
who ignore similar problems when brought to their attention.
People have property rights,
but they must be responsible and ensure the enjoyment of their property
does not jeopardize the safety of others.

88 posted on 01/14/2007 9:05:38 AM PST by kanawa (Don't go where you're looking, look where you're going.)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

hmmmmm..

You definitely ARE a 2nd class citizen, just like your friend "definitelynotlikeable"

Pathetic that any of you could condone killing an innocent animal. Animals that attack humans or kill other animals should be compassionately euthanized. Otherwise, what are they guilty of?

There's some really concerning hatred rearing its head on this thread.


89 posted on 01/14/2007 9:10:22 AM PST by spacejunkie
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To: spacejunkie
I couldn't agree more.

All of the "ban all pits/rotts/dogs" types on the Freep have NEVER responded to me when I tell them that I nearly lost an eye to a Yorkshire Terrier when I was two years old.

The dog left a permanent, albeit small now, scar on my face.

Funny, I was mauled by such a tiny, yet vicious, dog, and yet NO ONE calls for an out and out ban on Yorkies.

I own a Rottweiler who would give her life for me, has one of the sweetest temperments ever (she's a therapy dog in training) and has never shown any aggression toward other animals, people and especially, my three year old daughter. In fact, my Ursa absolutely ADORES my daughter and protects her fiercely.

My friend, an ER nurse, says the majority of dog bites that she treats are from toys and terriers. And the ONLY dog to ever bite me was a Chow (weird, inbred things.)

90 posted on 01/14/2007 9:11:41 AM PST by RepoGirl ("Tom, I'm getting dead from you, but I'm not getting Un-dead..." -- Frasier Crane)
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To: Racehorse; eastforker; cricket; raybbr; johniegrad; Sally'sConcerns; spacejunkie; ShadowDancer; ...

The local news reports said that the little girl had fed and walked the dog on a leash (with the owner's permission) in the past. This story says that the dog had been caught just like this before and she had helped him, just as she did this time.

In addition, the owners helped restrain the dog for Animal Control, who wanted to observe the dog. They have already let Animal Control know that they don't want the dog back.


91 posted on 01/14/2007 9:22:06 AM PST by hocndoc (http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: spacejunkie
I agree with you. I saw much of what you saw too as I worked for a few vets and at a shelter. People will breed to make money and they don't care all that much about the animals. I bred both dobies and akitas and on my akc papers it was always checked off that the dog was not to be bred, had to to be spayed or neutered. There were times I did allow one of my dogs to be bred if I knew the person or I felt they knew what they were doing. At the shelter I saw more pits abused then I like to think about. I did my share of going on calls where they would be left out in the yard on a short chain. When we would go to get a pit one of the first signs we would see and know there was going to be trouble was a tire tube hanging from a tree and some cinder blocks around the yard. Often we would call the police to back us up because those usually were the dogs that someone was training to be mean. Sad story but as it has been already posted , never try to help a dog in distress with out help and knowing what you are doing. A hurt animal will bite its owner........Prayers for the little girl and her family.
92 posted on 01/14/2007 9:26:28 AM PST by pandoraou812 ( zero tolerance and dilligaf?)
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To: spacejunkie

My wife was seriously threatened by three pit bulls owned up the street by a very threatening owner. She had one of my children in her arms and the other in the baby carriage.

The other pit bull owner had two of them tied up in the Yard. Eventually the really violent pit bull was put to sleep.

Both of these pit bull owners testified at the Animal Control hearings about the inherent friendliness of their dogs. It took multiple violent incidents with various neighbors to force one to build a fence and keep it locked and to euthanize the other owner's dogs.

During this lengthy period of time at least two years for each different owner, there were children (and adults) in the neighborhood who were in physical danger.

As I said in the beginning of my post, I do not condone the theoretical points I raised, and definitely would not want a person to use a firearm.

I should have been more explicit in my theoretical points, they would only apply to a dog who had exhibited dangerous tendencies.

Currently there is a pit bull owner up the street who treats his dogs very well. They exhibit no dangerous tendencies. The other two pit bull owners were the pits and not only mistreated their dogs, but exhibited hostility to most people.

PS, I am not saying that you are likeable or unlikeable. Nor am I making any other judgements concerning you.


93 posted on 01/14/2007 9:28:21 AM PST by 2ndClassCitizen
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To: SALChamps03

That's funny, I thought that people who shoot their mouths off with no SCIENTIFIC FACTS to back up their blanket assertions were the idiots.


94 posted on 01/14/2007 9:28:58 AM PST by Clifford The Big Red Dog (Woof!)
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To: definitelynotaliberal

And I hope every one of the imbeciles who takes your despicable advice gets put UNDER the jailhouse.


95 posted on 01/14/2007 9:30:25 AM PST by Clifford The Big Red Dog (Woof!)
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To: spacejunkie

My sympathies. I suspect my lack of patience would have resulted in the Chow-Chow becoming Puppy Chow after such an encounter.


96 posted on 01/14/2007 9:31:11 AM PST by Cvengr
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To: hocndoc

You know, I have even seen horses percieved to be gentle go bezerk at times. Too often humans think of animals in human terms. Animals do not think in terms of human law, only owner law. If the owner does not instill a code of conduct to an animal then he has no guidance. Even if the animal is trained, during an event of distress, it will often as not revert to animalistic behavior to survive. A human being will do the same thing at times.


97 posted on 01/14/2007 9:31:15 AM PST by eastforker (.308 SOCOM 16, hottest brand going.2350 FPS muzlim velocity)
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To: WV Mountain Mama

No one messes with Joey...NO ONE.


Just ask Kellen Winslow..........


98 posted on 01/14/2007 9:32:05 AM PST by Clifford The Big Red Dog (Woof!)
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To: 2ndClassCitizen

The person with the camera phone who just happens to get it on video.

Assume someone with a camera is always watching you because nowadays its true.


99 posted on 01/14/2007 9:34:34 AM PST by Clifford The Big Red Dog (Woof!)
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To: spacejunkie

This is the kind of crap that gives the left reason to call us conservatives "hateful", "selfish", and "mean-spirited".

And we willingly buy their bullets for them.


100 posted on 01/14/2007 9:36:12 AM PST by Clifford The Big Red Dog (Woof!)
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