Posted on 01/11/2007 11:23:32 AM PST by presidio9
Not if the dog was suffering, no.
If you shot it because you didn't like the way it looked, yes.
Ok so if we review your answers we find that "Animal Cruelty" can be defined as: Shooting or causing an animal, though not ALL animals only some that are deemed to be domestic, but then not just domesticated animals exactly but pets specifically, to be shot regardless of the amount of suffering said shot caused or did not cause, only to be excused by intentional shooting of a non-domesicated-pet animal which is of the hunted game type, during season of course, or the domesticated pet type of animal is known to be suffering.
Furthermore, it can be surmised that "deers" are meant to suffer at the hands of a hunter and there can be no issue of cruelty no matter how bad the shot of the hunter is. It's suffering is not to be considered as valid for consideration of a crime under the law, as long as it is shot by a licensed hunter during season or struck by a car.
We won't even go into the twisted and tortured nuances of "animal cruelty" with regards to farm animals. Shew that could take a while.
The point is that "animal cruelty" laws don't protect "animals" at all, because SOME are allowed to be killed by all manner of ways and it's completely legal. Animal Cruelty "Laws" are simply "feel better" laws because it makes some people "feel better" to know that SOME people will get jail time or probation for the mean things they do to SOME animals.
As I said earlier, I agree with some instances of persons being charged with cruelty like animal torture. I don't however agree with stretching it to cover the percieved, "if you look at it like this kinda sideways it's just like...." stuff.
ROFLMBO!!!!!!
I unable to understand, cause you talk bad english.
You lack a legitimate reply so you resort to attacking the poster for a misspelled word? Good choice, you just ruined your credibility with many people who might have been agreeing with you up to this point. (Though I don't believe there were many of those to begin with).
You are incorrect. I have already posted legitimate replies. The poster I was mocking jabbed me with the pointy stick first by saying "you unable to understand", a clear implication that I'm an Ignorant animal hater as I have been called by these folks earlier on the thread.
If you want to attack me for being snarky in my posts, you would have a bit more credibility if you admonished the person who referred to me as a PSO MF, what do you think they meant by that. So don't patronize as if you "might have been agreeing", you can't even admonish someone honestly. Look at yourself.
Although I do not agree that the guy should have ordered the dogs to attack I do not see much difference to that than cops sending in attack dogs against an armed citizen holed up in a building. If it is not cruelty for the cops to do it then it should not be cruelty for a citizen to do it. Criminal assault yes, cruelty no.
I hate to see animals get stuck in the middle of someone else's fight. I think it is cruelty to use your pet as a shield, to the detriment of that animal. Police dogs are trained (though that training can't possibly teach them how to react out of a desire to survive).
BTW...good to see you, hope to see you in a few months in SA if I am able to make it. :)
Looking forward to it myself. Cheers!
So is it cruel to use dogs for hunting dangerous game such as bear or cougar? Sometimes even coon dogs get handed their head by their quarry, is that cruelty?
Eastforker's point is dead accurate regarding dogs attacking dangerous targets.
I personally tried to make a larger point about how animal cruelty is completely subjective in many instances and should only be applied in clearly defined circumstances such as torture and maiming for entertainment. The real focus of these laws should be to head off the individual who gets enjoyment from cruel acts because so many serial murderers follow that pattern, and to prevent clear cases of uncaring neglect such as starvation.
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