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| 12/23/06
| BibleBabe1
Posted on 12/23/2006 11:31:23 AM PST by BibleBabe1
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To: FriendDownUnder
2,401
posted on
01/15/2007 8:44:00 PM PST
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: Peanut Gallery; Professional Engineer
" begin s/b being " Hmm. An interesting construction. I had always heard it expressed as, "Let there be light ..."
2,402
posted on
01/15/2007 8:44:52 PM PST
by
NicknamedBob
(My tuner doesn't have good taste the way it used to!)
To: FriendDownUnder
... Hey - I thought you were going to bed! Not me, as of time of that post, but not long now. Thinking towards a Snow Day tomorrow...
2,403
posted on
01/15/2007 9:27:26 PM PST
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: Peanut Gallery
Maybe she is just begin bossy and speaking Gaelic afterall? Math ga riribh, nach eil??
2,404
posted on
01/15/2007 9:29:18 PM PST
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: fanfan; sionnsar
What excuse did they use that time?I'd have to look that up. Right now, my only guess would be that the taxes were to fund the Civil War.
To: fanfan; sionnsar
One thing that I would like to look into later (after I get the rest of my work out of the way) is how the 16th Amendment got passed - what the government said to get it through. Why would anyone willingly give the government the Constitutional authority to tax your income? They do need money to operate, but they were already given a way to do so by the founding fathers.
To: tuliptree76
I would bet that it started out as a "tax the rich" scheme -- nobody else would pay. Then, of course, with the precedent in place, the tax threshold moved downwards, the flow of money to the feds increased, and the centralization of power in D.C. grew.
We never seem to learn that the worst measures are always enacted with the "unpopular" as the target -- initially.
2,407
posted on
01/16/2007 9:10:10 AM PST
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: tuliptree76
Hey tulip.
Thats a great subject--the history of the ratification of the 16th Amendment.
I believe when the 16th Amendment was passed, income tax was meant to apply to non-labor income--dividends and profits and such. Over time it has morphed into the monstrosity we have now.
Too many people don't know about it, though.
2,408
posted on
01/16/2007 9:11:57 AM PST
by
rottndog
(While reading this tag, remember Tens of Thousands of Americans are risking their lives for you.)
To: sionnsar
Talk about the camel's nose under the tent...
We never seem to learn that the worst measures are always enacted with the "unpopular" as the target -- initially.
Smokers know all about that.
2,409
posted on
01/16/2007 9:19:50 AM PST
by
rottndog
(While reading this tag, remember Tens of Thousands of Americans are risking their lives for you.)
To: rottndog; sionnsar
I believe when the 16th Amendment was passed, income tax was meant to apply to non-labor income--dividends and profits and such.That could be a possibility. I do remember reading somewhere about "excess profits taxes" that were created not too long after the 16th Amendment was passed. That's how the U.S. Tax Court initially got started (under a different name) - as an agency to help interpret and deal with problems that were raised by the creation of that tax.
To: tuliptree76
You should write a history of the IRS...
2,411
posted on
01/16/2007 9:25:54 AM PST
by
rottndog
(While reading this tag, remember Tens of Thousands of Americans are risking their lives for you.)
To: tuliptree76
Hmmm... I just realized that I can have 20 posts per page on a thread. This makes loading on dial-up a lot quicker!
And I've only been on FR for how long???
To: rottndog
LOL! Maybe that could be something to work on in the future. Right now, I'm focusing on changing "ABD" to "PhD". :-)
I wonder how many people would buy a book on the history of the IRS. Of course, the IRS would get part of the proceeds from the sales. ;-)
To: tuliptree76
I wonder how many people would buy a book on the history of the IRS.
That depends on the frame in which you write it--If it's stricly from a historical perspective, not many. If it's a realistic look at how a governmental agency when unconstrained descends into uncontrollable totalitarianism and thuggery, probably a lot.
2,414
posted on
01/16/2007 9:33:44 AM PST
by
rottndog
(While reading this tag, remember Tens of Thousands of Americans are risking their lives for you.)
To: tuliptree76
2,415
posted on
01/16/2007 10:01:02 AM PST
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: tuliptree76
LOL! I never figured that out.
2,416
posted on
01/16/2007 10:01:17 AM PST
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: sionnsar
Math ga riribh, nach eil??Wrong language. You might hit her with Russian or Hebrew however...
To: Professional Engineer
Doublecheck #2404 (2395). She said "Gaelic."
Were it Hebrew or Russian I'd be out of luck. I don't even have a phrasebook for either of those (only because my employer didn't want to send me to speak at a conference in Moscow last November).
2,418
posted on
01/16/2007 10:46:20 AM PST
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
To: sionnsar
Global Warming my left butt cheek...

Exactly whose idea was it to let it snow in TEXAS????
In other news, how's everyone doing?
2,419
posted on
01/16/2007 11:38:19 AM PST
by
Dead Corpse
(Anyone who needs to be persuaded to be free, doesn't deserve to be.)
To: Dead Corpse
We got more of that white Global Warming stuff last night and this morning. That on top of the ice from last evening's freezing, it's a good day for staying home and working on projects.
2,420
posted on
01/16/2007 11:59:39 AM PST
by
sionnsar
(†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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