[IronJack]

So portraying a bunch of heart-eating savages as ... well, a bunch of heart-eating savages is wrong? Do these same "critics" condemn "Texas Chainsaw Massacre Part MMCCCXXIIV" or "Saw?" Or is gore only wrong when it serves a conservative filmmaker?

[Hot Tabasco]

A few years back while on vacation in Honduras, I had the immense pleasure of touring the Mayan ruins in Copan. With the information being supplied by an English speaking guide, I learned that the Mayans were quite ingenious when it came to dealing out pain, torture and death on other people they had captured.

Lets just say they weren't the friendly Mertz family living next door........

[Recovering Ex-hippie]

If being an anti semite and saying this movie shows how Bush sacrifices our sodliers in a war that's wrong...that's a conservative?

nah, Mel just makes snuff films for the massess. the guy is an arrogant self centered violent-loving jerk.

[discostu]

The difference is nobody tries to pretend Texas Chainsaw Massacre or Saw are some form of high art that needs to be respected or have major awards bestowed upon them. Since Braveheart Gibson's movies have (with a couple of exceptions) been getting more and more gruesome, using many more gallons of kero syrup than all but the cheesiest of slasher films, and yet he runs around insisting they're high art and important films with important messages. At some point somebody needs to sit Mel down and explain to him that he's really on the path to becoming Wes Craven with subtitles.

[Jane Austen]

"Apocalypto" is not for children and several times I just looked away. It has too much realism for some people. But it was mesmerizing, kept me on the edge of the seat, and not a single dull moment. Surely an Oscar contender.

[Mamzelle]

Yeah--and how about the Tarantino movies? Gore as high camp.