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To: SunnyUsa
If someone falsely accused you of what they are accusing Haggard of doing...would you resign?

I would weigh what the implications were for the organization. Newt Gingrich wasn't guilty of anything serious and he stepped down for the good of the party. If Haggard did it and is lying, his behavior makes sense. If he didn't do it and he thinks he can help the NAE and the marriage amendment by stepping down, his behavior makes sense. What doesn't make sense is people acting like this is some boatload of evidence that proves something.

A counter question: If you were a reporter and a guy said, "I can prove what I'm saying, but I refuse to" would you believe anything else he told you? I'm a journalist and I'd tell him to pound sand.

There are only two things we can know for sure from this evidence: First, a guy called a voice mail box and talked about something. Second, this "revelation" is politically timed. That's all we know.

At one point all we KNEW for sure about Haditha was that a certain number of people had died on the same date that some Marines were in the town. From that evidence, some people on this board assumed that Marines had killed civilians and the drive by media assumed it was in cold blood. The FR repsonse to the Haggard case reminds me of that.

I feel sorry for his family and his followers. He should be ashamed

I feel sorry for you that you are so quick to condemn a man on the word of a male prostitute and drug dealer. Even if he is proved to be guilty, your critical thinking needs some serious work.

245 posted on 11/03/2006 10:02:25 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (People who say there are jobs Americans won't do haven't seen "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: Mr. Silverback
I feel sorry for you that you are so quick to condemn a man on the word of a male prostitute and drug dealer. Even if he is proved to be guilty, your critical thinking needs some serious work

Thanks for the sympathy, I don't need it - his followers and family do.

I will return the feeling sorry for you to defend him, especially since the hypocrisy must sting for all who defend him and have been disappointed by him.

I go by common sense, and it makes no sense that he steps down if these are outrageous lies. It makes you wonder, why would anyone step down if someone was saying horrible (horrific) lies about you - what's wrong with him that he doesn't step up in front of a mic and yell the truth.

255 posted on 11/03/2006 11:48:20 AM PST by SunnyUsa (No man really becomes a fool until he stops asking questions.)
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