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To: Nateman

The Space Elevator will never happen : LIGHTNING : both the 400,000V potential difference(average flow 1800A worldwide)and the Debye effect(reactive ions in orbit). If there is even a HINT that these science fair teeny boppers will short out that spherical capacitor and drastically change our biosphere(no 50V/meter electropotential gradient)with their elevator cable, the cuffs will be on them pronto........Yes, one pound to LEO runs about $20,000 on the shuttle. The actual energy value(mv^2/2 + mgh)of one pound in LEO is 4 KWH, or about 40 cents @ 10 cents/KWH. Arthur Clarke began to expound on that during an Apollo launch when Jules Bergman(remember him?)cut him off like a meat cleaver, NASA doesn't want you know how BIG their markup is : $20,000 for 40 cents worth of work......Thus it was that in the 1980's, during the salad days for SDI, a small slice of the aerospace community proposed EMSL : ElectroMagnetic Space Launch : shooting artillery projectiles into LEO at some 10% efficiency($4/#). The best idea, in my opinion, was the quenched superconducting ring-cannon(about 300 ft long to achieve 5 mps injection velocity). The studies were quite extensive, it looked very feasible, but nasa squelched it : it was too good of an idea which meant the ROCKET SCIENTISTS might have been out of a job. It's called VESTED INTERESTS, and no VESTED INTEREST ever funds its competitor...


5 posted on 10/29/2006 11:49:43 PM PST by timer
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To: timer

By my calculations 5 miles a sec in 300 feet means an acceleration of 36000 G's. Sounds like you need a much longer tube if your not going to crush your payload into a pandcake!


7 posted on 10/30/2006 12:34:20 PM PST by Nateman (When Islam arrives , they kill the liberals first who made it possible.)
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To: timer
"The best idea, in my opinion, was the quenched superconducting ring-cannon(about 300 ft long to achieve 5 mps injection velocity)."

Except for the little matter of acceleration and what it does to the delicate payload (e.g., astronauts). Anything but pig iron is probably too fragile to launch. That and Congressmen.

--Boris

9 posted on 11/01/2006 4:53:18 PM PST by boris (The deadliest weapon of mass destruction in history is a leftist with a word processor.)
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