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Today in History: The Battle of Hastings [10/14/1066]
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Posted on 10/14/2006 6:46:02 AM PDT by yankeedame

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1 posted on 10/14/2006 6:46:03 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame

Bump for reference later.


2 posted on 10/14/2006 6:51:41 AM PDT by bcsco ("He who is wedded to the spirit of the age is soon a widower" – Anonymous)
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To: yankeedame

Really not all that huge a battle in terms of the forces deployed. But resounding in its implications. From that point forward, British history took a radically different course, blending the best of Norman organization with sheer Anglo-Saxon yeomanry. The result is one of the most intriguing, puzzling, confounding cultures to ever populate the earth.


3 posted on 10/14/2006 7:04:29 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: bcsco

bump


4 posted on 10/14/2006 7:06:08 AM PDT by agincourt1415 (The Pope is RIGHT!)
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To: Peanut Gallery

ping


5 posted on 10/14/2006 7:12:07 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (If you know that i and j are the same number, you might be a nerd too.)
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To: IronJack

The battle was atypical in that it lasted for an entire day. Most battles at this time were decided in the first hour or two.


6 posted on 10/14/2006 7:19:00 AM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Thanks for the map, pix. We saw the Tapestry in Bayeux, it is wonderful, very moving. The French school kids were all there, celebrating France's LAST win. We few English-speakers were kind of grumbling ....


7 posted on 10/14/2006 7:35:49 AM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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To: yankeedame
I had an ancestor present on the Norman side, Sir William le Blount.

One of his descendants, William Blount, signed the Constitution from NC, and was the first governor of TN. Go Normans!

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(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

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8 posted on 10/14/2006 7:35:56 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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I really enjoy your bon mots.
9 posted on 10/14/2006 8:00:37 AM PDT by Thommas (The snout of the camel is in the tent...)
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To: yankeedame
Good morning.
"William of Normandy, v. Odo of Bayeux Harold Godwinson"

Actually, Bishop Odo was William's brother, not his enemy, and Odo rode into battle against the Saxons wearing a white cleric's robes and swinging a club rather than a sword. Clerics weren't supposed to shed blood.

I believe this battle is one of the most important in Western European history.

Michael Frazier
10 posted on 10/14/2006 8:01:26 AM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: yankeedame

Great maps.
Senlac = Lake of Blood.


11 posted on 10/14/2006 8:34:50 AM PDT by 1066AD
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To: bboop
We saw the Tapestry in Bayeux,

I saw it too. It made me wish I read Olde French. But the feeling passed ...

12 posted on 10/14/2006 8:36:50 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
The battle was atypical in that it lasted for an entire day.

By the time of the Roundhead revolution, that had changed. Most of the decisive battles of that period were days long. Or sieges that lasted months!

So much decided at Hastings in so little time ...

13 posted on 10/14/2006 8:38:35 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: brazzaville

It was a battle and outcome that shaped the political face of Europe for all subsequent history. It was to the ultimate social construct of England as what the The Hundred Years War and the Battle of Crecy were to the concept of nation-statehood and sovereignty across the European continent. Having been posted to Europe for eight of my 30 years and being a military history buff, I walked the Hastings battlefield and noted the valley bowl that denied maneuver to the ragtag group of Brits. Given the venue of the battle, it wouldn't have made any difference in the outcome if the English fighters still enroute at the outset of the battle had made it to the dance on time. William had the English in the same type of narrow, non-maneuver space that keep the Persians in check for four days at Cannae in 416 B.C. when the Greeks keep the Persians bottled-up until force of Persian numbers (1,200,000 v. barely 3,000) simply overwhelmed the defenders.


14 posted on 10/14/2006 8:54:40 AM PDT by middie
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To: IronJack

Now taken over by the PC police and muzzies.

I feel sorry for those who stayed.


15 posted on 10/14/2006 8:55:16 AM PDT by ASOC (The phrase "What if" or "If only" are for children.)
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To: middie

'Greeks keep the Persians bottled-up until force of Persian'

Mixing your battles middie!


16 posted on 10/14/2006 9:06:49 AM PDT by xone
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To: yankeedame

There is a tendency to forget about the battle of Stamford Bridge, fought a few days before Hastings. Harold's victory there ended Viking predations in Britain.


17 posted on 10/14/2006 9:30:11 AM PDT by curmudgeonII (One man...and the Lord...are a majority.)
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Battle of Stamford Bridge

Date: Monday, September 25, 1066
Location: Stamford Bridge, East Yorkshire
Result: Decisive English victory

Combatants
Norwegians, Northumbrian rebels,v. small numbers of Scots Anglo-Saxon England

Commanders
Harald Hardråde v. Harold Godwinson

Strength
300 ships, 5000 men v. Unknown

Casualties
276 ships, 4500 men v. Unknown

The Battle of Stamford Bridge in England is generally considered to mark the end of the Viking era. It took place on September 25, 1066, shortly after an invading Norwegian Viking army under King Harald Hardråde defeated the army of the northern earls Edwin of Mercia and Morcar of Northumbria at Gate Fulford two miles south of York.

King Harold Godwinson of England met Harald with an army of his own, taking him by surprise, unarmoured and unprepared, after a legendary forced march from the south of the kingdom.

According to the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle (SA 1066), the Stamford Bridge was immediately held by a powerful individual Viking who delayed the approaching English; he was finally brought down by a spear from underneath the bridge.

This delay gave Harald Hardråde time to form his army in a circle on high ground and let the English approach uphill with their backs to the river.

After a stubborn battle with losses on both sides, although particularly bad for the unarmoured Vikings, Harald Hardråde and Earl Tostig both fell.

The arrival of Norwegian reinforcements prolonged the battle, but in the end the Norwegian army was decisively defeated. King Harold Godwinson accepted a truce with the surviving Norwegians, including Hardråde's son Olaf and they were allowed to leave after giving pledges not to attack England again.

This battle marked the end of full scale invasions of England from Scandinavia, and was the turning point of Viking activity in that area.

King Harold's success was not to last, however. Little more than a fortnight after the battle, on October 14, after having marched his army all the way from Yorkshire, he was defeated and killed by Norman forces under William the Conqueror, at the Battle of Hastings. Thus began the Norman Conquest of England.

18 posted on 10/14/2006 10:23:40 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: xone

Ritht-O---My prof would be laughing like crazy--Carry on


19 posted on 10/14/2006 12:13:46 PM PDT by middie
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To: xone

Ritht-O---My prof would be laughing like crazy--Carry on


20 posted on 10/14/2006 12:13:47 PM PDT by middie
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