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Vista Licenses Limit OS Transfers, Ban VM Use
TechWeb ^ | October 12, 2006 (1:53 PM EDT) | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 10/13/2006 7:22:58 AM PDT by Señor Zorro

Microsoft has released licenses for the Windows Vista operating system that dramatically differ from those for Windows XP in that they limit the number of times that retail editions can be transferred to another device and ban the two least-expensive versions from running in a virtual machine.

The new licenses, which were highlighted by the Vista team on its official blog Tuesday, add new restrictions to how and where Windows can be used.

"The first user of the software may reassign the license to another device one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes the "licensed device," reads the license for Windows Vista Home Basic, Home Premium, Ultimate, and Business. In other words, once a retail copy of Vista is installed on a PC, it can be moved to another system only once.

The new policy is narrower than Windows XP's. In the same section, the license for Windows XP Home states: "You may move the Software to a different Workstation Computer. After the transfer, you must completely remove the Software from the former Workstation Computer." There is no limit to the number of times users can make this move. Windows XP Professional's license is identical.

Elsewhere in the license, Microsoft forbids users from installing Vista Home Basic and Vista Home Premium in a virtual machine. "You may not use the software installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system," the legal language reads. Vista Ultimate and Vista Business, however, can be installed within a VM.

Vista Home Basic, at $199 for a full version and $99 for an upgrade, and Vista Home Premium ($239/$159), are the two most-affordable retail editions of the operating system scheduled to appear on store shelves in January 2007.

Although the Vista team's blog did not point out these changes, it did highlight others. "Two notable changes between Windows Vista license terms and those for Windows XP are: 1) failure of a validation check results in the loss of access to specific features; and 2) an increase in our warranty period from 90 days to 1 year, which brings Windows in line with most other Microsoft products," wrote Vista program manager Nick White.

Specifically, the Vista license calls out the ramifications of a failed validation check of Vista.

"The software will from time to time validate the software, update or require download of the validation feature of the software," it reads. "If after a validation check, the software is found not to be properly licensed, the functionality of the software may be affected."

Vista's new anti-piracy technologies, collectively dubbed "Software Protection Platform," have met with skepticism by analysts and criticism by users. Under the new program, a copy of Vista that's judged to be in violation of its license, or is counterfeit, is disabled after a set period, leaving the user access only to the default Web browser, and then only for an hour at a time.


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To: blowfish

Well his experience, as well as mine, is it doesn't run well on older hardware. Especially not the newer versions, unless you get some stripped down version that might not even include a GUI.


161 posted on 10/14/2006 1:59:32 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: atomsandevil
  This was answered a long time ago. A system change means a motherboard change. Not just a replacement of a defective motherboard, but an upgrade.

When I have a 1-3 year old motherboard smoke out on me, there's no way I'm gonna go out and locate an exact match. That'd just be foolish -- I'd pay a premium for now-rare hardware that's inferior due to the passage of time.

This whole stupid idea is a non-starter. Shame on Microsoft.
162 posted on 10/14/2006 2:12:45 PM PDT by Mike-o-Matic
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To: blowfish
Any Linux can, what's probably slowing it down is the desktop (Gnome, KDE, etc.), which can be too slow for an older system.

See.

163 posted on 10/14/2006 2:13:06 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: atomsandevil; Mike-o-Matic
A system change means a motherboard change.

Why is that? There's not anything the O/S on the disk drive needs to boot that's dependent on if the motherboard is original that I know of.

164 posted on 10/14/2006 2:17:00 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: atomsandevil

No, you are right. I did 2 system upgrades in the last year that involved a new motherboard, and both times I had to re-authorize Windows XP. The first time, I had to call because it wouldn't authorize online. It's effing ridiculous because the whole time I've had 2 systems and 2 purchased copies of WinXP. M$ is going to be even more unpopular for making people spend another $100 every time their MB craps out, after the first time...


165 posted on 10/14/2006 2:22:39 PM PDT by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: Babu
I generally reformat the hard drives on all 3 machines about once a year.

I'd say get a good image backup product like Acronis, so instead of reformating you recover from backup.

166 posted on 10/14/2006 2:22:47 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Citizen of the Savage Nation

I seriously doubt there's any way you'd have to re-register your windows if you had to replace your motherboard. atomdevil is creating hype and must be refering to a motherboard upgrade or system overhaul.


167 posted on 10/14/2006 2:27:30 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: TChris
Wow. Microsoft's legal and marketing guys must be getting paid under the table by some rich Linux guys. I couldn't think of a better way to disenfranchise their customers, giving them a strong motivation to find something else.

Looks to me like they're just saying if you want to and can afford Windows, you can run it. If you can't or don't, then don't. Nothing different than what Apple's position has been all along.

168 posted on 10/14/2006 2:35:24 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: SDGOP

If you price an iMac against a pc and include the display and software not much of a diff.


169 posted on 10/14/2006 2:39:13 PM PDT by Leto
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To: MediaMole

The two best Linux distros for a new user are Ubuntu (or the derivatives) and Suse.

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Have been doing some hands-on learning with Suse 10. Anyone familiar with the update process with Suse?

Is the Suse Linux distro vulnerable if not kept up to date? Any issues with updating? Etc?

Thanks!


170 posted on 10/14/2006 2:43:15 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Su Casa Es Mi Casa)
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To: rzeznikj at stout; N3WBI3; MikefromOhio

Ping-O


171 posted on 10/14/2006 2:44:11 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: SDGOP
I don't think Microsoft will pull anything on Office 2007. I do think a couple of years from now they will start making MS Office and other new programs only run on Vista though.
172 posted on 10/14/2006 2:48:05 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Prime Choice
Linux and can be found at most computer superstores like Fry's, Best Buy, et al.

I've never seen a single copy of Linux in any store, and I shop the best stores. I'd recommend Apple, instead, if you feel the need to change from Windows.

173 posted on 10/14/2006 3:02:27 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Well, I have had the opposite experience. Any OS can be brought to it's knees if you run enough stuff on it. KDE is pretty adjustable, so you can enable or disable some of the bells and whistles depending on the horsepower.
That said, there is certainly a lot of work going into continuing to improve the performance of the KDE desktop. That's certainly one advantage Microsoft has: if you can dictate terms to the hardware manufacturers and maintain a monopoly on the UI you can tweak things to your liking.
174 posted on 10/14/2006 3:03:35 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

YAST should show the security updates. Most distros will keep crucial security updates coming for some time even after a new version has been released.

Most user-friendly distros can be set up to show an icon when updates are available.


175 posted on 10/14/2006 3:06:06 PM PDT by MediaMole (9/11 - We have already forgotten.)
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To: Prime Choice
I just love it when the droids at Fry's insist that what I'm doing is impossible...that these boxen "don't support Linux."

Wait. I thought you just said they sold Linux on systems there? Yep, you did.

176 posted on 10/14/2006 3:08:42 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Chuck Dent
MS is screwed from both ends - both low & high

It's possible, they have little elsewhere to go but down. But thin clients and open source have been all the rage for a decade now, there's nothing earth shattering there. I'd say handhelds are the next frontier, and right now Microsoft is well positioned.

177 posted on 10/14/2006 3:13:24 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Wait. I thought you just said they sold Linux on systems there? Yep, you did.

Nope. I said they sold Linux. Please brush up on your comprehension skills, child.

178 posted on 10/14/2006 3:16:55 PM PDT by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: Golden Eagle
I've never seen a single copy of Linux in any store, and I shop the best stores.

Yeah, and I'll bet you just go out of your way to look for it. Look, son...I know you missed out on Logic 101, but here's a big ol' clue for ya: just because you ain't seen something doesn't mean it ain't there.

Now stop wasting my time, boy. You were boring two messages ago.

179 posted on 10/14/2006 3:18:55 PM PDT by Prime Choice (True Conservatives don't vote for Liberals just because they have an 'R' by their name.)
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To: Señor Zorro

180 posted on 10/14/2006 3:20:45 PM PDT by ItsForTheChildren
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