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Vista Licenses Limit OS Transfers, Ban VM Use
TechWeb ^ | October 12, 2006 (1:53 PM EDT) | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 10/13/2006 7:22:58 AM PDT by Señor Zorro

Microsoft has released licenses for the Windows Vista operating system that dramatically differ from those for Windows XP in that they limit the number of times that retail editions can be transferred to another device and ban the two least-expensive versions from running in a virtual machine.

The new licenses, which were highlighted by the Vista team on its official blog Tuesday, add new restrictions to how and where Windows can be used.

"The first user of the software may reassign the license to another device one time. If you reassign the license, that other device becomes the "licensed device," reads the license for Windows Vista Home Basic, Home Premium, Ultimate, and Business. In other words, once a retail copy of Vista is installed on a PC, it can be moved to another system only once.

The new policy is narrower than Windows XP's. In the same section, the license for Windows XP Home states: "You may move the Software to a different Workstation Computer. After the transfer, you must completely remove the Software from the former Workstation Computer." There is no limit to the number of times users can make this move. Windows XP Professional's license is identical.

Elsewhere in the license, Microsoft forbids users from installing Vista Home Basic and Vista Home Premium in a virtual machine. "You may not use the software installed on the licensed device within a virtual (or otherwise emulated) hardware system," the legal language reads. Vista Ultimate and Vista Business, however, can be installed within a VM.

Vista Home Basic, at $199 for a full version and $99 for an upgrade, and Vista Home Premium ($239/$159), are the two most-affordable retail editions of the operating system scheduled to appear on store shelves in January 2007.

Although the Vista team's blog did not point out these changes, it did highlight others. "Two notable changes between Windows Vista license terms and those for Windows XP are: 1) failure of a validation check results in the loss of access to specific features; and 2) an increase in our warranty period from 90 days to 1 year, which brings Windows in line with most other Microsoft products," wrote Vista program manager Nick White.

Specifically, the Vista license calls out the ramifications of a failed validation check of Vista.

"The software will from time to time validate the software, update or require download of the validation feature of the software," it reads. "If after a validation check, the software is found not to be properly licensed, the functionality of the software may be affected."

Vista's new anti-piracy technologies, collectively dubbed "Software Protection Platform," have met with skepticism by analysts and criticism by users. Under the new program, a copy of Vista that's judged to be in violation of its license, or is counterfeit, is disabled after a set period, leaving the user access only to the default Web browser, and then only for an hour at a time.


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To: SDGOP

Your not the only one.....


141 posted on 10/14/2006 11:46:03 AM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: thoughtomator

I was thinking they were tlaking about MS VM's are you saying this would include ESX?


142 posted on 10/14/2006 11:46:06 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: Centurion2000

http://www.ltsp.org/


143 posted on 10/14/2006 11:47:27 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: Babu
Babu, How geeky does one have to be to learn to use Linux?

Depends on your poison ;) Some distro's like Slackware can be a bear, some like Fedora are a little too bleeding edge, but distro's like Mephis and Ubuntu are very good..

Do you buy or build your own machine for it, and where do you get the software?

Try going here "http://ubuntu-releases.cs.umn.edu//6.06/" There is a livecd download which will let you try linux on youc current computer without changing it (put the cd in, reboot to go into linux, reboot and remove the cd to go into windows)

Is it hard to learn to use?

At a user level its not hard at all, it just feels a little different.

Can you use Windows Office, Quicken, Adobe Photoshop, Palm Desktop software, browse the Internet, .. and other commonly used software on Linux-based machines (for example, my wife takes college courses part time and must use Power Point)?

Yes and no, wine will run alot of windows software on linux but youre better off with native equivalents like openoffice (oppenoffice.org has a windows version so you can try it) for office.

144 posted on 10/14/2006 11:55:11 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: pepperhead

Lets hope mi crosoft doesn't pull some shady crap and force us to upgrade to vista, i personally like some microsoft software(like office 2007 and onenote 2007 and project), but i want no part of vista if it has these 'restrictons' on what you can do with your computer.


145 posted on 10/14/2006 11:58:23 AM PDT by SDGOP
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To: jpsb

How much traffic does the web server get and are you running any thing else on it (like a database)..


146 posted on 10/14/2006 12:42:16 PM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: The_Victor
Maybe if MS did not have a six year os development cycle they would not have to worry about reselling..
147 posted on 10/14/2006 12:43:14 PM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: SDGOP
AVS Forum (Audio Video Sciences) has an active Microsoft Vice President (goes by Amir) and several other code writers that are involved with Vista and HD DVD. They have been leaking enough about Vista to ensure that it will be the last Windows operating system that they market.

They foresee their Vista Media Center as the entertainment hub of the home. The problem is that all equipment throughout the house must be upgraded to include all of the DRM crap that will stop anyone from copying movies or music. You have to have Cat 5 cable for the network, and compliant players and displays to allow the data to flow across the network (encrypted so it is never accessible to copy) You will have to buy the Managed Copy version to download to your media server. They don't even want you to legitimately copy the version on the disc that you purchased, even if you pay extra for the Managed Copy. It must be downloaded from MS to a harddrive with all the DRM built in, so that the media never leaves that married piece of equipment.

They want all tangible physical copies that you can actually hold in your hand to go away. They foresee Video on Demand (Music on Demand) replacing buying/renting content to watch/listen whenever, however and wherever you wish.

They want a piece of every song and every show or movie that you watch. It is all about the $$$$$.
148 posted on 10/14/2006 12:59:55 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Do you have some links on this?


149 posted on 10/14/2006 1:09:05 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: Prime Choice
Where do you think PalmOS comes from?

It used to come from the U.S., but a Japanese company bought it and just unceremoniously retired it as well.

150 posted on 10/14/2006 1:15:47 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Señor Zorro

FYI this thread was a dupe. I would recommend always searching before posting.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1718465/posts


151 posted on 10/14/2006 1:17:37 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: jpsb
But ever time I've tried linux it was just to damn slow to be useable.

Because Unix/Linux was designed to run on high powered scientific equipment. Windows was designed to run on the original "desktop computers", or low low horsepower.

152 posted on 10/14/2006 1:28:43 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: theFIRMbss
None of this matters. Fortune Magazine [!] reports Apple's working on putting their OS on an iPod, configured to be then plugged in to any PC and turn it into a Mac. This will change the world.

It just might. I've thought for a long time Apple should switch to Intel and make OSX available for standard "PC's", and if they can configure a virtual machine or 'live cd' that boots on Dell or other cheap PC's they will will make some serious noise in the desktop O/S market.

153 posted on 10/14/2006 1:33:05 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: SDGOP

These bits here and there are spread across threads encompassing hundreds of thousands of posts. It is a prolific Home Theater and more forum.

Here is a link to their forum page.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/

Most of their posts are in the HD sections such as HD Software, HD DVD Player and Blu Ray Player sections. These statements are in relationship to features in HD DVD and Blu Ray players. Vista was not the main topic, but how Managed Copy etc will work under Vista etc. You will see that it is impossible to find much with the amount of posting taking place. Search works but not well.

I have given you a summary of two years of daily reading.

LLS


154 posted on 10/14/2006 1:34:32 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Centurion2000
I help with a 20,000 node network. This just gave the open source advocates in my department a HUGE boost.

Most 20,000 node networks don't run on open source.

155 posted on 10/14/2006 1:35:23 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Because Unix/Linux was designed to run on high powered scientific equipment. Windows was designed to run on the original "desktop computers", or low low horsepower.

With all due respect, Linux was originally based off of MINIX which ran on Intel based PC's, not high powered equipment. Embedded Linux can run on all sorts of small devices like Linksys routers,Palm handhelds and some mobile phones.

Windows if anything is serious bloatware by comparison.

156 posted on 10/14/2006 1:36:45 PM PDT by trashcanbred (Anti-social and anti-socialist)
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To: DesScorp
Macs for my personal machines, Linux for my servers.

Put Solaris on your servers, ZFS and Java.

157 posted on 10/14/2006 1:37:42 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: The_Victor
if I buy a new machine I'll downgrade to XP.

I doubt you'll make that mistake. Vista-capable computers will have more horsepower, and have to be updated less. Upgrades on other systems are never simple, either.

158 posted on 10/14/2006 1:42:34 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Golden Eagle
Because Unix/Linux was designed to run on high powered scientific equipment. Windows was designed to run on the original "desktop computers", or low low horsepower.

Sorry, but linux was *specifically* designed to run well on low-horsepower systems.

159 posted on 10/14/2006 1:44:33 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: poindexters brother
I am hard-pressed to understand any compelling reason for anyone to move from WinXP to Vista - other than strong-arm tactics from MS.

What strong arm tactics? You can buy either, a Mac may even be better, but it will still cost you more, and comes with just as much copy protection.

I see this Vista thing the same way.

If Microsoft can secure Vista from all the haters and viruses then it will be a success. They are apparently willing to sacrifice the users associated with pirating etc as part of that process.

160 posted on 10/14/2006 1:49:09 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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