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Nifong: Ms. Pittman in your telephonic interview with Ofc. Hinmna on March 20th statement you said the only time you were separated from the victim from the time you arrived, until the time you left was when you left the bathroom to go to your car and the victim stayed behind. Is that correct Ms. Pittman?

Kim: yessir..

Nifong: Ms. Pittman in your March 22nd written statement you claimed you left the victim locked in the car and went back in the house alone to look for her things. Is that correct Ms. Pittman.

Kim: yessir...

Nifong: Ms. Pittman, were you lying to Mr. Hinman on March 20th or were you lying in your written statement on March 22nd?

Kim: yessir...

Nifong: Ms. Pittman, can you give the court other examples of where you have lied in your statements to police about the events of evening of March 13th and early morning on March 14th.

Kim: yessir...

Nifong: No more questions, your witness... Mr. Osborn.

There could even be another period of seperation if you believe Bissey and the boys about the AV going to the car and returning either for her purse or shoe.. whomever you choose to believe.

Darby, you're falling for Liefong's BS. There is nothing inconsistent in Kim saying that she left Mangum in the house for less than 5 minutes - and that was the only time she left her alone - and later saying that she also left her locked in the car while she went back into the house. It's obvious to me from Kim's first interview when she said the rape allegation was a crock, that she was being asked about her and Mangum's whereabouts and movements IN THE HOUSE WHERE THE RAPE ALLEGEDLY OCCURRED. Further, Liefong is technically wrong anyway because he asks Kim, "you said the only time you were separated from the victim from the time you arrived, until the time you left was when you left the bathroom to go to your car and the victim stayed behind. Is that correct Ms. Pittman?" Then he asks, "you claimed you left the victim locked in the car and went back in the house alone to look for her things. Is that correct Ms. Pittman." So, he's talking about her coming and going from two different places, one where the boys were and one where they weren't, in the house and out of the house, apples and oranges. It's a cheap, tacky, transparent little trick, that's all, and anybody with any common sense understands what she meant. In the first statement, she's addressing whether Mangum could have been raped or not - if there was time enough if and when she was alone in the house. In the second statement, she's talking about their respective movements generally. The fact that Liefong didn't follow up with, "Well, which statement date were you lying to Mr. Hinman?" tells me all I need to know about what he was up to. He was trying to present an opportunity for Kim to make up an entire new story that would be helpful to him, otherwise he would have asked which of those dates her statement was true and which it wasn't and she was being cooperative with him on it, since the statements aren't mutually exclusive of each other as I have explained to you several times now. Of course, now I'm worried that she did change her story to suit Liefong so he'd cut her a deal and we just don't know about it yet.

Nice hypothetical direct of Roberts. But you write as if Nifong must prove beyond a reasonable doubt that a rape could not be ruled out. What he must do is prove beyond a reasonable doubt a rape occurred [not to mention that the three indicted committed it] and Roberts saying that Mangum did not look hurt or harmed in any way and that she did not see a rape etc. hurts his case.

Showing that Roberts lied about this at times in the past is not going to help him much. She does not have an real incentive to lie and does not benefit from getting on the stand and risking a perjury charge from Nifong.

This is not unlike the discussion here with Jezebelle about whether to count Roberts' lying as starting when she was just trying to dump Mangum at the Kroger or to start evaluating her when the once Mangum claimed rape and this became a serious matter.