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To: Kylie_04

That's exactly what I was thinking. I'm amazed that someone would do that and NOT expect a handwriting match to be made later. But, for the sake of discussion, let's say PR is culpable. Then we can see several mistakes on her part:

1.) wearing clothing that witnesses had seen her wearing the evening before while tying the ligature together
2.) using a swiss army knife when she didn't know how it got where it was
3.) leaving the pineapple and tea glass on the table and not cleaning it up
4.) not accounting for the pineapple that would appear in JBR's system at autopsy
5.) The numerous mistakes in the RN itself indicating this was NOT really a kidnapping
6.) leaving underwear on JBR that was size 12
7.) wiping fingerprints from the flashlight which was NOT necessary
8.) leaving a chair in the hallway in the basement and the lights on; indicating activity in the basement which an innocent parent would have noticed if caused by an intruder
9.) placing tape on the child's mouth AFTER she expired
10.) not cleaning up urine on the floor outside the cellar room; indicating place of death of JBR
11.) leaving sheets in dryer in basement which should have been put BACK on JBR's bed
12.) violating the victim with a paintbrush, indicating possibility of deception by perpetrator
13.) showing TOO much interest in gory details of her daughters death afterward; most innocent parents would never talk about such things publicly
14.) latching the 'secret' lock on the cellar room door which an intruder would arguable not know of
15.) claiming that the doors to the house were locked that night; forcing explanation for intruder ingress via a basement window that would almost certainly have left fiber or other evidence
16.) leaving JBR's room in same disarray that it actually was in that night - indicated that death did not occur there b/c if it had it would have been straightened up. If promoting intruder theory, deceiver would be best served by altering disarray to support that view. In contrast, disarray we see is random. For deception purposes, the best thing to do would have been to straighten the room up.
17.) not changing clothes before witnesses arrived at her house

The list could go on as the mountain of forensics and physical evidence is substantial, but the thing I noticed here is that IF PR was involved, this shows a pattern of unsophisticated criminal behavior. I'm guessing that's all the 'un-fudged' RN was, just yet another error in the larger plan.


2,575 posted on 08/27/2006 11:34:31 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: ableLight

Correction on 16

"16.) leaving JBR's room in same disarray that it actually was in that night - indicated that death did not occur there b/c if it had it would have been straightened up. If promoting intruder theory, deceiver would be best served by altering disarray to support that view. In contrast, disarray we see is random. For deception purposes, the best thing to do would have been to straighten the room up."

Deceiver is best served by straightening room up b/c adding evidence of intruder tampering with room increases imponderables that could point to deception. Straightening room up leaves detective w/ no useful information.


2,576 posted on 08/27/2006 11:40:59 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: ableLight

Not sure where you got #13 - neither of the Ramseys showed any interest at all in how she died or why, which caused most of the suspicion by so many people.

The sexual assault was not discussed by them with police until three years later, when LE made them listen to the findings.


2,579 posted on 08/27/2006 11:50:08 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: ableLight

Also, note that each item wiped clean of fingerprints and of material relevance in the case is a point of deception. The deceiver in this hypothetical is revealing which parts of the scene they are trying to distort. It's very telling.

recall: potato knife, flashlight and it's components, swiss army knife, etc.

The logic of deception is tricky and I think it is why perps often screw that up.


2,580 posted on 08/27/2006 11:56:40 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: ableLight
The other thought I have on this is that PR (again, if we are assuming she wrote the RN) was simply arrogant enough to think her plan would work.

The problem with all this is that rational people are trying to piece together an explanation for a series of actions and events that we can scarcely imagine. Add 10 years of dissembling to the mix and the death of major players in the drama and there is just too much that we can never really know for sure.

2,582 posted on 08/28/2006 12:36:27 AM PDT by Kylie_04 (not consuming liquids while posting since 2006)
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To: ableLight

If post# 2575 is evidence of Patsy's guilt then no wonder she was never brought up for trial. Read it again and think innocent. You'll have a complelety different view on those things.

If she didn't do it, why would she have an explanation for things being left the way they were?


2,677 posted on 08/28/2006 9:55:37 AM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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