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To: hoosiermama

Just in case these questions got buried in all the posts. I think it is perfectly appropriate and possible to ask these questions without accusing anyone of anything. Please note that I've included some of my OWN explanations for these questions...

17 questions that remain unanswered. Could it all be unfortunate coincidence?

1.) Patsy and Burke's fingerprints were all over the bowl of pineapple which we know was the last thing Jonbenet ate. The bowl was taken down from a high shelf. If not taken down by Patsy or the intruder, then who? [pineapple was the last food she ate, according to pathologists and only Patsy's and Burkes fingerprints were on the bowl]

[Maybe the killer wore gloves for at least part of the crime sequence, got the bowl down and served Jonbenet pineapple]

2.) How did Patsy's jacket fibers end up entwined in the ligature, on the inside of the tape that covered jonbenet's mouth, and ALSO in the paint tray from which the stick to make the ligature was used? She said she never wore that jacket down there.

[Perhaps the tray, tape and rope were all contaminated by the fibers indirectly by simply being in that house. If the killer were rummaging through the house while the Ramseys were gone, maybe he contaminated the rope, tray and tape himself]

3.) Why, according to pathologists, was the tape put over Jonbenet's mouth AFTER she died? [According to pathologists, there are characteristic indications on the inside of the tape when a person is still alive]

[This may have been a replacement tape put on after the girl managed to remove the first one by herself; it could have even been an n’th replacement. In addition, that last piece of tape may have been placed on her mouth AFTER a fatal head blow but before the killer knew she was deceased]

4.) Why were both Patsy and John apparently wearing the same clothes they had on the night before? Patsy said she got dressed BEFORE she found the note, so would a hurried dressing explain that?

[Maybe Patsy, being unlucky, decided to do something weird on the wrong day. There is some confusion about whether JR was truly wearing the same clothes]

5.) Why did Patsy claim that Burke was asleep during the morning of the discovery of the ransom note when he was supposedly heard on the 911 tape? What did he mean by saying "but what did I do" and "but what did you find"? Why did she then let him sleep until 9 that morning in his own bed, when they had planned to all be up by 6, on such a traumatic day? Was Burke really, really tired?

[This is the hardest evidence to ignore - maybe the tape didn’t really record that. There may be some controversy about how clear the voices really were. A copy of that tape would be useful. As for the late sleep-in, maybe the Ramseys just didn’t want their 9 year old son in the middle of such a traumatic event]

6.) Why was a 45 lb. girl dragged?

[Maybe Burke or neighborhood bullies did it 2 or 3 days before the murder]

7.) The coroner pinned her time of death very close to 10 p.m. How did an intruder, by virtue of the theory, botch a kidnapping (and thus write a long, 3 page rambling note), THEN kill her all between about 10:30 and 11 p.m. that night? By all appearances of forensics, the note was written after she died, not before. That defies the intruder theory. Even if he was already in the house when they got home he would have had to kill jonbenet at about the same time they walked in the door.

[The death, given the inherent limitations of time of death estimates, could have occurred as late as midnight. The ransom note, including many other preparations, could have been done before the Ramseys got home]

8.) What type of blow to the head would an intruder likely put on the child's head that would not create a laceration? An intruder in the bathtub? Why?

[I don't have an answer to this one. It seems like a rare event indeed that a blow that hard could be accomplished without tearing skin - a laceration]

9.) Why was the fact that Burke and his friend both testified that Burke owned a pair of Hi-Tec boots never given any play in the MSM? Why did Patsy and John deny that he owned them, only to confess that he did when confronted with Burke's testimony (actually, "affiant")?

[Maybe he did, but Hi-Tec boots were popular at the time. Maybe the parents didn’t really know what shoes their son had - material excess could explain that]

10.) When were the supposed stun gun marks made on Jonbenet's body? Do we really know if they were delivered on the night she was murdered? How would we? Were they really stun gun marks? [They never made a positive determination because they didn't investigate that at autopsy].

[So, the killer could have in fact stunned her]

11.) Who called 911 from the Ramsey home 3 days before her murder then didn't speak and hung up? Why did a return call 6 minutes later result in an answering machine response? Why were the police told when they responded that all was well?

[Fleet White claimed he did]

12.) Why did both the flashlight, which was sitting prominently on the kitchen island, and the baseball bat have no fingerprints on them whatever? Did any of the Ramseys ever touch either?

[Sometimes prints don’t show up after a while - maybe neither was touched in some time]

13.) Why was a swiss army knife, one hidden in the linen closet near Jonbenet's bedroom by the housekeeper (she took it from Burke and hid it there), found in the basement near the body? Who else but Patsy would have known the knife was hidden in bed sheets in the linen closet? [The housekeeper testified to the Grand Jury that only she herself knew about the knife]. Could this knife had been used to cut the ligature rope?

[The knife was placed in the “cupboard” about 1 month before the murder. Anyone could have found it and taken it to the basement]

14.) Why was a barbie doll nightgown still clinging to the sheet wrapped around Jonbenet's body, if it hadn't just been removed from the dryer? Who else but Patsy would have known it was there?

[Perhaps it wasn’t static cling but just present for some other reason]

15.) Why were the normal linens used on Jonbenet's bed ('normal' in the sense that the Ramsey housekeeper knew them to be) in the dryer the morning of the ransom note? Why was Jonbenet's bed made up with alternate bedding?

[Maybe it was laundry day]

16.) Why was Patsy the only person to leave fingerprints on the note pad from which the ransom note was written?
[Maybe the killer was wearing gloves for a portion of the crime sequence. He may have taken the paper elsewhere - like the basement - and wrote the note. In particular, he may have worn gloves whenever he ventured out of the basement.]

17.) According to the coroner's report, JBR's GI transit for the consumed pineapple should've placed consumption very broadly 1 to 2 hours before her death. Why would an intruder feed her, then wait so long to kill her while in someone else's house?


1,397 posted on 08/23/2006 9:17:49 PM PDT by ableLight
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To: ableLight

1. If the bowl of fresh pineapple were in the refrigerator (it would be in my house) Then JB could easily have gotten it out for herself.....The children may have both eaten out of it earlier in the day or it may have been her brother's left overs and she was finishing it up for him....(My youngest favorite trick.) The killer may never have touched it.

2. If the killer was in the laudry room (note the picture of her taken in the laundry room), it could have been from the dryer or washer lint, and transferred from there. I assume Patsy did her own laundry.

3. The perp took the original tape off. Kissed her and then put a new piece on. Kept the other for a trophy.

4. They were planning on flying out that day....Had worn their clothes only to the party the evening before. Had other clothes packed or in the laundry. (we'll not discuss how many times I fall asleep in my clothes/chair reading)

ENough for tonight


1,413 posted on 08/23/2006 9:35:41 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: ableLight

Hmmm. I'll do a couple of these that aren't complicated and that I haven't already done (4 of them I answered in a previous post).

1. Asked & answered, lol.

2. Maybe she did wear the jacket down there. Or, the perp had been hugging or rubbing up against Patsy that night and had some of the fibers which had been shed from her Christmas sweater on his own clothes, which then fell off (Locard).

3. To make an accident look like the work of a fiend.

4. I don't know that John was wearing the same clothes. The night before, it was a black Israeli-made shirt, unless I've got that mixed up with another time. Seems like it had something festive, like velvet, on the cuffs or collar. (*His* shower wasn't broken.)

5. The 9-1-1 tape enchancement is available on the 'Net for your listening pleasure - in about 100 different versions. Just google. Why they let him sleep (which he wasn't actually doing) is as odd as having Fleet White (the parent) go up and get him, make his bed for him, and then whisk him off to the Whites' house - where no one was home except Pris's out-of-town guests, in fact, I think just her seniors-age parents. This, while a small foreign faction that had just kidnapped their daughter was allegedly watching their every move.

Will continue in another post ...


1,470 posted on 08/23/2006 10:56:33 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: ableLight

(cont.)

6. She was only dragged a few feet from where LE thought she was attacked, just outside the wine cellar door, on the carpeted area near the freezer and heater boiler, into the wine cellar to conceal her body. Then the door was closed and the wooden stop-latch, a small chunk of wood on a nail, at the top of the door jamb, was turned down to lock it.

7. Qui'en sabe? This one's more than I want to get into right now.

8. Another "too complicated" one for now.

9. I can't imagine why - but there is another explanation that defies belief. Has to do with a kid misunderstanding "Hi-Tec" for "high tech" and thinking his light-up sneakers or ones with a compass on them were the answer.

10. I don't believe in stun guns

continuing to another post ...


1,480 posted on 08/23/2006 11:09:31 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: ableLight

(cont.)

11. Fleet White Jr., the parent of the little boy Fleet III(it's confusing because people think Jr. is the son if you don't distinguish between them), took responsibility for the 911 call on 12/23/96, saying he was trying to call his parents in Aspen and in dialing, didn't dial the 9 to get an outside line on the Rams' phone or dialed too many 9s or something. PR or SS said it was a "drunk party guest."

12. They had both been wiped clean - even the batteries in the flashlight.

13. Burke may have found it and gotten it out at another time. What little kid doesn't know all the hiding places in his own house, used by his parental and other authority units for confiscated goodies?

14. No one knows

15. JonBenet wet the bed, which was a frequent occurrence?

16. Not everyone leaves fingerprints. Some people have oilier skin than others, also cleaner hands leave fewer fingerprints than those with soil on them.

17. Perhaps Karr was in AL and didn't care


1,489 posted on 08/23/2006 11:21:12 PM PDT by Rte66
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