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JonBenet Ramsey Murder Case SuspectFR Thread Roundup
Free Republic ^ | August 16-20, 2006 | FReepers

Posted on 08/20/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by Rte66

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To: sandbar

you know the poster Protagoras accused me the other day of killing JBR, lol! I swear some people around here I just ignore!


761 posted on 08/22/2006 12:05:31 PM PDT by Halls (I'm a Texan, Christian, Wife, Mother, Singer, Conservative GAL!!)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

so far................


762 posted on 08/22/2006 12:06:03 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: ableLight


Jerks on the forum?
Just who are you?


763 posted on 08/22/2006 12:07:43 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: bonfire; BigSkyFreeper; sandbar; stlnative; hoosiermama

What's going on here? I have read the posts and it's still unclear.


764 posted on 08/22/2006 12:11:04 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx

that is what I'd like to know.


765 posted on 08/22/2006 12:11:55 PM PDT by Halls (I'm a Texan, Christian, Wife, Mother, Singer, Conservative GAL!!)
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To: bonfire
I don't believe in this tinfoil hat conspiracy nonsense. I don't trust Ahmadinejad when he says he wants to negotiate, and liberals negotiating with terrorists and dictators, or a religion that believes in telling medieval fairy tales of prophets riding up to God on winged horses to recieve a message from God to pray 3 times a day.

That prophet, whoever the hell he was, sounds like he was either a backslider or religious slacker.

766 posted on 08/22/2006 12:13:20 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: Halls

If the squabbles are about misinformation, what's the big deal? We're not going to solve the case here.


767 posted on 08/22/2006 12:13:51 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx

Some egghead in the media said today is supposedly the end of the world. I'm mad. I was duped. I want a refund.


768 posted on 08/22/2006 12:14:27 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: onyx

Seems some are mad that sandbar won't reveal his/her relationship with Karr. So they are either accusing sandbar of making it up OR are sucking up to get a scoop.

That's my take.



769 posted on 08/22/2006 12:15:44 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: bonfire


OK, thanks. I just know from the time I returned and read the posts, I saw a lot of psycho babble and nonsense.


770 posted on 08/22/2006 12:17:37 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Why aren't you on the thread: "World Ends Tomorrow: Live Thread"?


771 posted on 08/22/2006 12:17:49 PM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: onyx
If the squabbles are about misinformation, what's the big deal? We're not going to solve the case here.

Rush said it beautifully today in his 2nd hour. There's no story here, but he's glad the focus in the media has been shifted from the bashing of Bush, the lies in Iraq, and the bashing of Israel to some pervert with some "story" tell, who surfaced out of nowhere, and now is a snake on a plane.

772 posted on 08/22/2006 12:18:12 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: txrangerette; BigSkyFreeper
He often goes off topic. He likes to "chat."

:)


773 posted on 08/22/2006 12:18:55 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: txrangerette; onyx
Why aren't you on the thread: "World Ends Tomorrow: Live Thread"?

You wouldn't understand. It was a conversation onyx and I had last night.

774 posted on 08/22/2006 12:19:02 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: onyx; txrangerette
Right. I'm engaging in idle coffee talk with my FRiend over a hot cup of coffee.

:)


775 posted on 08/22/2006 12:19:59 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: BigSkyFreeper


Rush is wrong. There is a story here, but it might be about a delusional Mr. Karr.


776 posted on 08/22/2006 12:20:38 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx

I saw them talking about some handwriting on my TV today. I had it on mute, because I was listening to Rush. They got a case to be made there?


777 posted on 08/22/2006 12:21:54 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: sandbar
You can chuck off stlnative. You have shown yourself to be a real jerk. Sorry I felt compelled to answer and prove myself to you. YOU and jerks like you are exactly why I haven't went anywhere but FR. I guess there are some of them no matter where you go. I'll go crawl back in my hole.

Sandbar, I haven't followed this entire thread, or even the details of what is happening re Mr. Karr. Reading from the bottom of the thread for a little while this morning, I noticed the running conversation you've had with a few other posters, and now have the impression you are connected with Mr. Karr in some way. I don't want to know anything along those lines, but do want to say the following to someone who might care and not brush it off:

None of us knows whether or not he murdered JonBenet. You are absolutely right in your comments about our thoroughly irresponsible media. I would add that plenty of people take the crap the media feeds them, and then run wild with it, spinning all sorts of theories to fit what they think are the facts. Before long the truth is so buried, it might never be able to be found again.

Based on what few facts we do have, I am concerned Mr. Karr may be railroaded whether or not he actually committed the crime. Everyone says the DNA will clear it up. Maybe, if they get a clear, definitive match to him. However, the results could come back as inconclusive, which means he remains a suspect solely on the basis of his "confession." I believe the Boulder authorities are so anxious to hang someone for this, that they will hang him even if he is just a disturbed person who confessed to a crime he didn't commit.

Again, going only by what few hard facts I know from news reports, near as I can tell, other than the misdemeanor charge of possession of child porn and failure to comply with the court order in that case, Mr. Karr has not been charged with committing any other crimes. Being obssessed with a murder is not a crime. Possibly wanting a sex change operation is not a crime. Having problems keeping a teaching job is not a crime. Suggestions that he might have pedophile tendencies is not a crime. If he does, nothing in the public domain right now indicates that he ever acted on those tendencies, other than to acquire child porn.

If Mr. Karr did murder JonBenet, then either there has been a massive amount of lies, misleading information, and so on published for years about the case (most of it coming directly from the Boulder authorities), or the Boulder authorities are going to have to answer some very, very tough questions.

Mr. Karr may or may not have committed this crime. Perhaps time will tell for real, perhaps not. I'm skeptical at this point, and am awaiting hard facts proving his involvement. There is also the very real possibility that Mr. Karr's mental condition has been deteriorating, and he may very well have confessed to something he didn't do for that reason. He may have convinced himself he did it, and as a consequence, will make the best witness against himself. Unfortunately, if this is the truth, it may already be too late to prevent him from being tried and convicted for the murder because the Boulder authorities and, in all likelihood, the Boulder jury pool, want him to be guilty.

If Mr. Karr is not mentally sound, and if he has suicidal impulses, he might even allow himself to be charged, and then plead guilty. So there would never even be a trial, and the state would never have to prove its case.

It's extremely ironic that the parents of the murdered child immediately obtained the best legal counsel their ample bank accounts could afford, but John Mark Carr, so far, has not obtained legal counsel re the murder case. He seems almost desperate to be known as her killer, whether or not he actually did the crime.

778 posted on 08/22/2006 12:26:13 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Suffer the little children to come unto Me...for of such is the kingdom of God. [Mark 10:13-14])
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To: BigSkyFreeper

Some say the "a" "y" "l" are quite similar. I am more impressed with the S.B.T.C. in the ransome note and Karr's use of the words (which I cannot recall right now) Shall Be The Conquerer (?) that is written in a yearbook from 21 years ago....


779 posted on 08/22/2006 12:29:48 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Wolfstar
You know as well as I do that the Boulder authorities don't want to look like collossal screw ups, and the people who felt compelled to go along with the lies fed by the media will feel duped if this guy Karr actually is found innocent.

We could be facing the OJ Trial Part II. Not saying that's what I firmly believe will happen, but everyone involved has to tread carefully from here on out. That includes the media and the people watching all this unfold.

780 posted on 08/22/2006 12:34:27 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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