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JonBenet Ramsey Murder Case SuspectFR Thread Roundup
Free Republic ^ | August 16-20, 2006 | FReepers

Posted on 08/20/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by Rte66

For your bookmarking assistance, this is a reference list of links to the Aug 2006 or newer Free Republic threads on the topic of the JonBenet Ramsey murder case and the possible arrest of John Mark Karr as a suspect in her murder.


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I've added answers to my list of questions which just goes to show how the evidence in this case seems to point everywhere and nowhere!

16 questions that remain unanswered. Could it all be unfortunate coincidence?

1.) Patsy and Burke's fingerprints were all over the bowl of pineapple which we know was the last thing Jonbenet ate. The bowl was taken down from a high shelf. If not taken down by Patsy or the intruder, then who? [pineapple was the last food she ate, according to pathologists and only Patsy's and Burkes fingerprints were on the bowl]

[Maybe the killer wore gloves for at least part of the crime sequence, got the bowl down and served Jonbenet pineapple]

2.) How did Patsy's jacket fibers end up entwined in the ligature, on the inside of the tape that covered jonbenet's mouth, and ALSO in the paint tray from which the stick to make the ligature was used? She said she never wore that jacket down there.

[Perhaps the tray, tape and rope were all contaminated by the fibers indirectly by simply being in that house. If the killer were rummaging through the house while the Ramseys were gone, maybe he contaminated the rope, tray and tape himself]

3.) Why, according to pathologists, was the tape put over Jonbenet's mouth AFTER she died? [According to pathologists, there are characteristic indications on the inside of the tape when a person is still alive]

[This may have been a replacement tape put on after the girl managed to remove the first one by herself; it could have even been an n’th replacement. In addition, that last piece of tape may have been placed on her mouth AFTER a fatal head blow but before the killer knew she was deceased]

4.) Why were both Patsy and John apparently wearing the same clothes they had on the night before? Patsy said she got dressed BEFORE she found the note, so would a hurried dressing explain that?

[Maybe Patsy, being unlucky, decided to do something weird on the wrong day]

5.) Why did Patsy claim that Burke was asleep during the morning of the discovery of the ransom note when he was clearly heard on the 911 tape? What did he mean by saying "but what did I do" and "but what did you find"? Why did she then let him sleep until 9 that morning in his own bed, when they had planned to all be up by 6, on such a traumatic day? Was Burke really, really tired?

[This is the hardest evidence to ignore - maybe the tape didn’t really record that. There may be some controversy about how clear the voices really were. A copy of that tape would be useful. As for the late sleep-in, maybe the Ramseys just didn’t want their 9 year old son in the middle of such a traumatic event]

6.) Why was a 45 lb. girl dragged?

[Maybe Burke or neighborhood bullies did it 2 or 3 days before the murder]

7.) The coroner pinned her time of death very close to 10 p.m. How did an intruder, by virtue of the theory, botch a kidnapping (and thus write a long, 3 page rambling note), THEN kill her all between about 10:30 and 11 p.m. that night? By all appearances of forensics, the note was written after she died, not before. That defies the intruder theory. Even if he was already in the house when they got home he would have had to kill jonbenet at about the same time they walked in the door.

[The death, given the inherent limitations of time of death estimates, could have occurred as late as midnight. The ransom note, including many other preparations, could have been done before the Ramseys got home]

8.) What type of blow to the head would an intruder likely put on the child's head that would not create a laceration? An intruder in the bathtub? Why?

[A blow to the head by violent ramming into a concrete floor with a down comforter to cushion the blow and prevent laceration could explain that]

9.) Why was the fact that Burke and his friend both testified that Burke owned a pair of Hi-Tec boots never given any play in the MSM? Why did Patsy and John deny that he owned them, only to confess that he did when confronted with Burke's testimony (actually, "affiant")?

[Maybe he did, but Hi-Tec boots were popular at the time. Maybe the parents didn’t really know what shoes their son had - material excess could explain that]

10.) When were the supposed stun gun marks made on Jonbenet's body? Do we really know if they were delivered on the night she was murdered? How would we? Were they really stun gun marks? [They never made a positive determination because they didn't investigate that at autopsy].

[So, the killer could have in fact stunned her]

11.) Who called 911 from the Ramsey home 3 days before her murder then didn't speak and hung up? Why did a return call 6 minutes later result in an answering machine response? Why were the police told when they responded that all was well?

[Fleet White claimed he did]

12.) Why did both the flashlight, which was sitting prominently on the kitchen island, and the baseball bat have no fingerprints on them whatever? Did any of the Ramseys ever touch either?

[Sometimes prints don’t show up after a while - maybe neither was touched in some time]

13.) Why was a swiss army knife, one hidden in the linen closet near Jonbenet's bedroom by the housekeeper (she took it from Burke and hid it there), found in the basement near the body? Who else but Patsy would have known the knife was hidden in bed sheets in the linen closet? [The housekeeper testified to the Grand Jury that only she herself knew about the knife]. Could this knife had been used to cut the ligature rope?

[The knife was placed in the “cupboard” about 1 month before the murder. Anyone could have found it and taken it to the basement]

14.) Why was a barbie doll nightgown still clinging to the sheet wrapped around Jonbenet's body, if it hadn't just been removed from the dryer? Who else but Patsy would have known it was there?

[Perhaps it wasn’t static cling but just present for some other reason]

15.) Why were the normal linens used on Jonbenet's bed ('normal' in the sense that the Ramsey housekeeper knew them to be) in the dryer the morning of the ransom note? Why was Jonbenet's bed made up with alternate bedding?

[Maybe it was laundry day]

16.) Why was Patsy the only person to leave fingerprints on the note pad from which the ransom note was written?
[Maybe the killer was wearing gloves for a portion of the crime sequence. He may have taken the paper elsewhere - like the basement - and wrote the note. In particular, he may have worn gloves whenever he ventured out of the basement.]


661 posted on 08/22/2006 7:35:52 AM PDT by ableLight
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To: I want to know; Rte66

He wants all the glory... maybe wants to enter a guilty plea regardless of any direct evidence or not.

Did you see Rte's new article posted above? Please read it. It gets weirder and weirder.


662 posted on 08/22/2006 7:37:42 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx

>>>His mother died in a mental institution?>>>

Yes she did, but not in 2000.


663 posted on 08/22/2006 7:38:08 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: Rte66

SINCE WHEN DOES ABC NEWS HAVE AN WWW.ABC.GO.COM ADDRESS? THIS LINK IS FALSE AS IS THE STORY.

However, she was in a mental institution.


664 posted on 08/22/2006 7:38:59 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: sandbar

The local ones do - ours does. What part is false? And where is Nathaniel in this? He's not mentioned at all.


665 posted on 08/22/2006 7:42:06 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66; onyx; Sacajaweau; Conservative Texan Mom

I was one who was asking, what did his mother die from.

I thought the answer might shed light on him. I said what if she killed herself or had mental problems or what if someone in the family (him?) had harmed her...you name the many possibilities, that might show something was wrong either with her or with him or both.

If this is confirmed, you bet it's significant in following his twisted and tortured life, whether he killed JonBenet or not.


666 posted on 08/22/2006 7:42:14 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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Husband (who, to my horror, is now unbelievably following the case) is a psychiatrist --- was she a paranoid schizophrenic?
667 posted on 08/22/2006 7:43:16 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: txrangerette


Husband (who, to my horror, is now unbelievably following the case) is a psychiatrist --- was she a paranoid schizophrenic?


668 posted on 08/22/2006 7:44:07 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: txrangerette; Rte66


He might really think he did it --- he might be seriously delusional.


669 posted on 08/22/2006 7:48:32 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: onyx

Is John Mark Karr a Paranoid Schizophrenic?


670 posted on 08/22/2006 7:51:28 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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To: sandbar

The link is not false. It's ABC News (radio)'s Law and Justice Unit. They've put out a number of exclusive stories.


671 posted on 08/22/2006 7:52:29 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: sandbar

Why did her obit occur in 2000 then?


672 posted on 08/22/2006 7:53:34 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: onyx

Yes, he might believe it though untrue.

Wonder how often paranoid schizophrenics commit murder?

My impression is that most of them aren't a danger to society in THAT sense.

But surely, surely some of them are murderers.

What does your Psychiatrist hubby say to that??


673 posted on 08/22/2006 7:54:39 AM PDT by txrangerette ("We are fighting al-Qaeda, NOT Aunt Sadie"...Dick Cheney commenting on the wiretaps!!)
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SSDI:

PATRICIA E KARR 13 Jul 1939 16 Mar 2000 (V) 15642 (Irwin, Westmoreland, PA) (none specified) xxx-xx-xxxx Pennsylvania


674 posted on 08/22/2006 7:56:35 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: onyx

>>>Husband (who, to my horror, is now unbelievably following the case) is a psychiatrist --- was she a paranoid schizophrenic?>>>

Her husband was NOT a psychiatrist, but she was paranoid schizophrenic. I amazed each day how RUMOURS have become journalism. I am disgusted. The MSM is reporting RUMOURS as fact, and then one reporter reports that rumour, it then becomes 'fact' as they are quoting a 'reputable source'. I tell you first hand that my experience with these VULTURES have sickened me.


675 posted on 08/22/2006 7:56:48 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: txrangerette

>>>I was one who was asking, what did his mother die from.>>>

She died from heart attack/stroke in mental illness program.


676 posted on 08/22/2006 7:57:23 AM PDT by sandbar
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To: onyx

Ramsey's attorney made it very clear that if she continued with her lines he would sue...Doubt if Cnn will have her on again in fear that they could become a party to the law suit.


677 posted on 08/22/2006 7:58:46 AM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Rte66

>>>The link is not false. It's ABC News (radio)'s Law and Justice Unit. They've put out a number of exclusive stories.?>>>

Well, they are incorrect about her death and noone knows anydamnbody in Pittsburg, her family is in no way shape related to anything up there. Sheesh. May be ABC's link, but shoddy reporting. An obituary?? That's how they get their facts? Sad for some Patricia Adcock (as she did not go by that name, it wouldn't have been in the obit that way) in Pittsburg to be associated with someone she didn't know.


678 posted on 08/22/2006 7:59:04 AM PDT by sandbar
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No, MINE is a shrink. He wanted to know.


679 posted on 08/22/2006 8:00:07 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: hoosiermama


GOOD. Glad to hear that. I detest Wendy Murphy. She's on FNC all too often.


680 posted on 08/22/2006 8:02:40 AM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" only 10% are radical, that's 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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