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JonBenet Ramsey Murder Case SuspectFR Thread Roundup
Free Republic ^ | August 16-20, 2006 | FReepers

Posted on 08/20/2006 5:37:25 AM PDT by Rte66

For your bookmarking assistance, this is a reference list of links to the Aug 2006 or newer Free Republic threads on the topic of the JonBenet Ramsey murder case and the possible arrest of John Mark Karr as a suspect in her murder.


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To: Conservative Texan Mom; stlnative

Can you compare CTM compilation of crimes to the list of movies that were made about actual crimes?


1,741 posted on 08/24/2006 2:14:11 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: Valpal1

I read that Jon Benet was still in Rigor when John Ramsey brought her up. Do you know what the time frame is on that?


1,742 posted on 08/24/2006 2:20:27 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: ableLight; All
Here's another reason I don't think that Ramsey's tried to make an accident look like a murder:

If it's a murder, someone has to go to jail! If it's an accident, no one has to go to jail. So, if JonBenet was slammed against something, and accidentally died, why not say she fell. Why not insist it was an accident. If you are successful, then the case is closed. In a murder, it stays open until somebody goes to jail!
1,743 posted on 08/24/2006 2:24:41 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: nopardons

Of course you might hang onto loved ones letters, etc.. some do, but not all, however most people throw away letters from people they don't quite care for.


1,744 posted on 08/24/2006 2:35:18 PM PDT by Halls (I love being a Texas gal!)
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To: hoosiermama

I'll have to read what was said - the gruesome knowledge statement had been discounted a few days ago, by someone in Keenan's office, maybe Nagel.

Since the coroner didn't even know about the head blow until he peeled back her scalp, the only thing Karr could know, if he did the crime, is the truth about the actual weapon used which didn't break the skin.

If he says a fireplace poker or something similar, I'll comment.


1,745 posted on 08/24/2006 2:38:09 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

Average onset 3-4 hours after death, reaches fullness at about 12 hours and leaves at about 36.

Warm tempatures can delay it, cool tempatures hasten it.


1,746 posted on 08/24/2006 2:39:10 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

If it's a gruesome murder, no one thinks it's the upscale parents who were responsible - they focus on a monster, after the parents are cleared. Parents weren't, in this case.


1,747 posted on 08/24/2006 2:40:20 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Valpal1

Thanks.


1,748 posted on 08/24/2006 2:41:06 PM PDT by Conservative Texan Mom (Some people say I'm stubborn, when it's usually just that I'm right.)
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To: Rte66

The speculation of these reporters are astonishing....it is public record that her head wound wasn't discovered until the autopsy...there was no bleeding or swelling....what this reporterette meant by *gruesomeness*, I have no idea.


1,749 posted on 08/24/2006 2:41:44 PM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Halls

Oh, I have letters from people I don't care for; I've kept them to remind me WHY I should still be angry at them. And I doubt that I am alone in this.


1,750 posted on 08/24/2006 2:41:58 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Valpal1

How active the deceased's muscles were at the time of death hastens RM. The Yates child who fought the hardest had already started into rigor when the ME got there just 4 hours later.


1,751 posted on 08/24/2006 2:42:11 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

1:05 PM, 12/26/96


1,752 posted on 08/24/2006 2:44:04 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: mystery-ak

I think most local people agree with me


1,753 posted on 08/24/2006 2:49:24 PM PDT by DenverGal
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To: Conservative Texan Mom

The "be well rested" comment was to make them think that the "tomorrow" in the note was supposed to be 12/27/96, the day after the note was found - this is the Ramsey explanation for why the ransom call never came and they weren't expecting one.

If the note were written on the 25th, which would be the logical conclusion, with parents in the home who heard nothing, "tomorrow" would be the 26th - the day the note was found, which would be expected by the leaver of the note on the stairs the parents used in the morning.


1,754 posted on 08/24/2006 2:49:29 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: hoosiermama

And leave your dead baby on the floor of your house alone? I don't think so.


1,755 posted on 08/24/2006 2:50:53 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66
They were taking her to AL to be buried.
1,756 posted on 08/24/2006 2:54:15 PM PDT by hoosiermama
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To: hoosiermama

Who?


1,757 posted on 08/24/2006 2:57:09 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Rte66

Good point. But the rigor mortis in JBR does nothing to change any time of death because generally points to the same time frame that she was missing.



1,758 posted on 08/24/2006 3:00:32 PM PDT by Valpal1 (Big Media is like Barney Fife with a gun.)
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To: All

Interesting - Nagel said there was more than just the "Mr & Mrs Ramsey" which was printed on the practice note.

The rest of it was deciphered from the indentations on the paper and that info has not been released. (I've never seen or heard the content of the pressure indentations, that I can recall.)

They're going to ask him what it originally said and why he made the corrections he made. Hmmm.


1,759 posted on 08/24/2006 3:00:44 PM PDT by Rte66
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To: Valpal1

Yes, just saying to consider it, because it was not a well known factor at the time of her death.


1,760 posted on 08/24/2006 3:01:58 PM PDT by Rte66
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